having trouble washing out hair-products
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Topic: having trouble washing out hair-products
Posted By: Scntillatedseed Subject: having trouble washing out hair-products Date Posted: Dec 10, 2005 at 2:41am
So, when i style my hair and I practically put hairspray all over to
achieve the hairstyle I want. I can't wash out hte hairspray with
just water! And to think doing htis to my hair everyday could
only leave me bald one day too soon o_O or so me thinks.
Is it okay to buy that got2b product wash, and use it everday if I
wanted to style my hair everyday? Or does it strip your hair of
keratin like shampoo? WHat's the differnece b/w it and shampoo
anyways?
Any help would be appreciated :D
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Replies: 23 Posted By: Scntillatedseed
Date Posted: Dec 10, 2005 at 2:41am
So, when i style my hair and I practically put hairspray all over to
achieve the hairstyle I want. I can't wash out hte hairspray with
just water! And to think doing htis to my hair everyday could
only leave me bald one day too soon o_O or so me thinks.
Is it okay to buy that got2b product wash, and use it everday if I
wanted to style my hair everyday? Or does it strip your hair of
keratin like shampoo? WHat's the differnece b/w it and shampoo
anyways?
Any help would be appreciated :D
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Posted By: Susan W
Date Posted: Dec 12, 2005 at 7:16am
If I put that much spray in, I'd want to wash it out every day just
because the spray might leave white flakes when it breaks apart when
you brush it the next day. Does it not? If you get a gentle
shampoo washing your hair everyday should be fine. Shampoo without
sulfates is more gentle than with (and there are also types of sulfates
that are more gentle than others). You can also try diluting some of
your shampoo 50/50 or more with water, which is easier on the hair and
the scalp (doesn't strip them to dryness so bad). I'm not
familiar with the got2b product.
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Posted By: Scntillatedseed
Date Posted: Dec 13, 2005 at 2:09am
Thanks for the reply!
"You can also try diluting some of your shampoo 50/50 or more with water, which is easier on the hair and the scalp (doesn't strip them to dryness so bad)."
Diluting it 50/50 with water you mean or do you mean I can use another substance too?
Well the product does flake up(if I were using hte hair-spray) but in the case of the got2b product it's actually waterproof. So I would need to shampoo or at least get that wash, which I don't know what it's of.
It's a bit difficult searching around for gentle shampoo's since a lot of company's tend to hide the sulfate ingredients if it's not in a significant amount IE. pantene pro-v, Dove, etc. Do you know any brands of shampoo and conditioner in particular that aren't so expensive?
Doesn't shampooing and using products on your hair everyday significantly change the condition of your hair?
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Posted By: Susan W
Date Posted: Dec 13, 2005 at 8:31am
I use Avalon, which is sulfate free, but its 7 bucks a bottle so if you
don't want expensive, its kind of high for shampoo. Try searching
the net for the name of the shampoo +ingredients and often you can find
what's in them. Usually the sulfates are a major component in
them (high up on the list).
Products like hair sprays or gels (or anything sticky) will damage your
hair a little if they have damaging ingredients (best to avoid ones
with lots of alcohol). And shampooing everyday isn't neccessarily
the best thing for your scalp, because your scalp will adjust to try to
compensate for the dryness by producing more oil (so that eventually,
you will HAVE to wash your hair every day to remove excess oil).
This can be reversed of course by washing your hair less frequently and
your scalp will readjust however.
You don't say how long your hair is, but for any hair shorter than
shoulder blades you may not notice any bad effects from shampooing
every day or using hair products like that. (For people growing
their hair a lot longer, it may be more of an issue because they keep
their ends around longer). If your hair is very fine (each hair thin
enough to be almost invisible) you may also want to watch and make sure
you aren't damaging it, and stop if you notice you are (fine hair can
be more delicate). Any damage from those kinds of products should be
less, and will likely be trimmed off before it really gets
noticeable. The real causes of major damage are chemicals like
dyes, perms or relaxers, and heat styling.
Yes, I meant diluting your shampoo 50/50 with water. This would
have the effect of making it more gentle if you don't want to spend
more money on different shampoo. (A few tips: Use a small
bottle and only make the amount you'll need per wash so its not sitting
around dilute where it could potentially grow things in it...you are
also diluting its preservatives. After adding shampoo to the
water, roll the bottle slowly to mix, don't shake it or it will foam
too much).
If you want a good clarifying treatment to get rid of any residual
product build up, you can also mix your shampoo 50/50 with baking
soda. This makes it a clarifying shampoo and will strip off
residual product. (Condition really well after using, it will
strip off all the hair's moisture...also, don't use
on dyed hair as it may remove some of the color too). You may
want to use clarifying shampoo once every 2 weeks or so - not more (and
only if your hair isn't dyed) because I think those got2b products have
ingredients that can build up over time and dull hair.
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Posted By: Scntillatedseed
Date Posted: Dec 13, 2005 at 9:07pm
[QUOTE=Susan W]I use Avalon, which is sulfate free, but its 7 bucks a bottle so if you
don't want expensive, its kind of high for shampoo. Try searching
the net for the name of the shampoo +ingredients and often you can find
what's in them. Usually the sulfates are a major component in
them (high up on the list).[/quote]
That's a bit difficult since I did try. I actually called pantene
and uh... I think the company that makes pert plus and tehy said
that their products contain a little bit of it, but not enough
SLS(sodium lauryl sulfate or that other one ALS I thinK?) to be
listed.
Products like hair sprays or gels (or anything sticky) will damage your
hair a little if they have damaging ingredients (best to avoid ones
with lots of alcohol). And shampooing everyday isn't neccessarily
the best thing for your scalp, because your scalp will adjust to try to
compensate for the dryness by producing more oil (so that eventually,
you will HAVE to wash your hair every day to remove excess oil).
This can be reversed of course by washing your hair less frequently and
your scalp will readjust however.
I remember reading that your scalp was the ONLY thing that doesn't
overcompensate for dryness, hence the reason for itchy heads and
flakes. Perhaps that was wrong, or I misread.
You don't say how long your hair is, but for any hair shorter than
shoulder blades you may not notice any bad effects from shampooing
every day or using hair products like that. (For people growing
their hair a lot longer, it may be more of an issue because they keep
their ends around longer). If your hair is very fine (each hair thin
enough to be almost invisible) you may also want to watch and make sure
you aren't damaging it, and stop if you notice you are (fine hair can
be more delicate). Any damage from those kinds of products should be
less, and will likely be trimmed off before it really gets
noticeable. The real causes of major damage are chemicals like
dyes, perms or relaxers, and heat styling.
No problems there for me then, I'm a guy so my hair is 5 inches long
max. Probably will grow it out to 6-7 in a few areas.
Yes, I meant diluting your shampoo 50/50 with water. This would
have the effect of making it more gentle if you don't want to spend
more money on different shampoo. (A few tips: Use a small
bottle and only make the amount you'll need per wash so its not sitting
around dilute where it could potentially grow things in it...you are
also diluting its preservatives. After adding shampoo to the
water, roll the bottle slowly to mix, don't shake it or it will foam
too much).
If you want a good clarifying treatment to get rid of any residual
product build up, you can also mix your shampoo 50/50 with baking
soda. This makes it a clarifying shampoo and will strip off
residual product. (Condition really well after using, it will
strip off all the hair's moisture...also, don't use
on dyed hair as it may remove some of the color too). You may
want to use clarifying shampoo once every 2 weeks or so - not more (and
only if your hair isn't dyed) because I think those got2b products have
ingredients that can build up over time and dull hair.
I guess I can't do that since my hair is dyed and will be dyed a
slight more. I will take that shampoo tip though
thanks!
Just another question though, would combining hair products such as
mouse, cement hair-spray and wax be excessively damaging?
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Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Dec 13, 2005 at 11:23pm
This hasn't been mentioned in this thread so I just wanted to add.. these products that stick to hair will not only flake off eventually, but they might take parts of your cuticle with it. This means the natural covering of the hair shaft might come off if it is stuck to any 'hold products' such as mousse and hair cement. WIth more products used, it can also potentially make hair more brittle than usual... which would feel weird after awhile, but little else.
Other than that, Susan's advice is gospel!
by the way Susan, I've been looking at your website and your hair is just FABULOUS
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Posted By: Scntillatedseed
Date Posted: Dec 14, 2005 at 2:02am
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