having trouble washing out hair-products

Thanks for the reply!

"You can also try diluting some of your shampoo 50/50 or more with water, which is easier on the hair and the scalp (doesn't strip them to dryness so bad)."

Diluting it 50/50 with water you mean or do you mean I can use another substance too? 

Well the product does flake up(if I were using hte hair-spray) but in the case of the got2b product it's actually waterproof.  So I would need to shampoo or at least get that wash, which I don't know what it's of. 

It's a bit difficult searching around for gentle shampoo's since a lot of company's tend to hide the sulfate ingredients if it's not in a significant amount IE. pantene pro-v, Dove, etc.  Do you know any brands of shampoo and conditioner in particular that aren't so expensive? 

Doesn't shampooing and using products on your hair everyday significantly change the condition of your hair?

This hasn't been mentioned in this thread so I just wanted to add.. these products that stick to hair will not only flake off eventually, but they might take parts of your cuticle with it. This means the natural covering of the hair shaft might come off if it is stuck to any 'hold products' such as mousse and hair cement. WIth more products used, it can also potentially make hair more brittle than usual... which would feel weird after awhile, but little else. 

Other than that, Susan's advice is gospel!

by the way Susan, I've been looking at your website and your hair is just FABULOUS

Happy holidays
Anais

This hasn't been mentioned in this thread so I just wanted to add.. these products that stick to hair will not only flake off eventually, but they might take parts of your cuticle with it. This means the natural covering of the hair shaft might come off if it is stuck to any 'hold products' such as mousse and hair cement. WIth more products used, it can also potentially make hair more brittle than usual... which would feel weird after awhile, but little else. 

Other than that, Susan's advice is gospel!

by the way Susan, I've been looking at your website and your hair is just FABULOUS

Happy holidays
Anais

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I see... so that's the catch to constantly using hair products...  Well you said it feels wierd after a while?  Meaning that the cuticle comes back?  Or...  just that your hair feels wierd and brittle?  *touches hair*  Feels fine so far...  So what about the use of hair-products being a cause to hair-loss?  Any facts to that or is it just a myth? 

ANd indeed she's got great advice.  

Ya only got one layer of cuticle, and it never comes back  Some people experience brittleness and some people don't. If you do, just be sure to clarify.

Hugs, all
Anais

Damn it my msged just got erased...  Anyways back to square one I suppose.

Ya only got one layer of cuticle, and it never comes back  Some people experience brittleness and some people don't. If you do, just be sure to clarify.

What would be the worst if I were to get my cuticle stripped?  I have pretty thick hair and I've been using the product for about ...  a couple of months now.  Does hte intensity of the hold increase the chances of your cuticle's being stripped?  And are there certain products like glue, as opposed to gel that strip it more?  How would I know if the cuticle is stripped?  Is there a change in appearance or texture?  Is it noticable(although that may be a vague word since you pay a lot of attention to hair so lemme rephrase it).  Is it noticable to most people :P? 

I guess I would agree that it doesn't OVERcompensate, in the sense that its your natural scalp oil so can't be bad for your hair (though we don't usually let our scalps get oily enough that this oil gets on much of the hair these days).  I find itchy heads and flakes are often caused by using the shampoo in its concentrated state so it overdries the scalp, and diluting it helps reduce the overdrying effect.  So in that sense your scalp isn't the thing helping, its using a less drying form of shampoo.  (And thats if you don't have flakes caused by a medical condition, like psoriasis or yeast overgrowth).

Your welcome Susan :D.  But so it does compensate you're saying?  Interesting thing about the itchy scalp, I'll try your advice. 

The cuticle covers your hairs like a "tube" and prevents the strand from shredding into long fibers. This is what happens when someone gets a split end- the covering is worn off, and the inside of the hair is exposed.

Your hair is on the short side so it won't matter as much... but super-strong hold products like glue will definitely take off cuticle. You won't be able to really tell unless you get really intense tangles, or if you see lots of ends that look like forked tongues. They look bad if a person has a lot of them, and split ends have to be cut off, but they're not deadly either. 

The key is to choose your hold products wisely and wash them out when you're done.

Faery blessings
Anais

The cuticle covers your hairs like a "tube" and prevents the strand from shredding into long fibers. This is what happens when someone gets a split end- the covering is worn off, and the inside of the hair is exposed.

Your hair is on the short side so it won't matter as much... but super-strong hold products like glue will definitely take off cuticle. You won't be able to really tell unless you get really intense tangles, or if you see lots of ends that look like forked tongues. They look bad if a person has a lot of them, and split ends have to be cut off, but they're not deadly either. 

The key is to choose your hold products wisely and wash them out when you're done.

Faery blessings
Anais

Thanks Susan  With super strong hold products, they sometimes take parts of your cuticle with them when the product comes off. It works the same way as silicone damage, if that helps explain. ...but that's about as far as I know. The key thing is to handle the hair gently, wash out hold products at the end of the day, and use them only when needed.

Hugs
Anais

Silicone is an ingredient in most conditioners, and it basically forms a protective coating around each hair strand. It covers the entire cuticle (outer layer of hair). It binds to the cuticle, so sometimes the silicone will flake off and take some pieces of cuticle with it.... the same way that hold products could potentially do. But it's pretty microscopic and it takes a long time to accumulate damage.

HTH
Anais

Silicone is an ingredient in most conditioners, and it basically forms a protective coating around each hair strand. It covers the entire cuticle (outer layer of hair). It binds to the cuticle, so sometimes the silicone will flake off and take some pieces of cuticle with it.... the same way that hold products could potentially do. But it's pretty microscopic and it takes a long time to accumulate damage.

HTH
Anais

If you're only going to let your hair get 6-7 inches long before you cut the ends off, that's not really enough time to accumulate silicone damage.  It takes a very long time for that kind of damage to appear. Thats something those of us who grow very long hair need to worry about.  Likewise for the alcohol...6-7 inches isn't really long enough that you'll notice any damage from your hold products.  Any damage you notice on hair that length will be from the dye you've put on it.

Thanks for posting where you got that.  Without reading it I would have said the heat was the real problem, and from that it looks like they say the same.  Use your blow dryer on the cool setting and you should be fine.

Glad to help  

I answered your silicone question because you asked   but like mentioned before, (1) it takes a long time to accumulate damage from them, therefore (2) the damage from them won't be great if you have relatively short hair (your hair will be a year old, maximum, before it is cut off).

It's not something to worry about, I just used a poor analogy that prompted a question.

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Anais

Ahh, thanks again, you've been of great help seriously :).