What is short hair?

I've always defined long hair as below the shoulders and really long as middle of the back or longer. Short is chin length or shorter.

Not to everyone. I knew a short-haired pixie girl who would talk about how long her hair was getting when it hit her ears. Today at work, a co-worker got her hair cut. It was about three inches from below her shoulder blades to just above them.

I'm one who notices haircuts and I wasn't sure cut it. She, on the other hand, went on about how short her haircut was and how different it felt. She said that she liked her hair short and would keep it that way.

"Your hair's short?" I inquired. She responded that it was to her. Her hair was usually down to her elbows.

It's all relative.

You're right it's all relative.

I knew a Black woman in Chicago at the escort service where I worked who had a very close cut afro , nearly bald. When her hair would get to, oh I don't know, maybe an afro about a little more than a half of an inch long, she would say, "Time for a trim, my afro is getting a little too long and shaggy!". She would then have it cut short right to the scalp.
She must have had a clientele that liked very short hair on women, or maybe she just liked it that way.


I think your definition of chin length or shorter would probably be considered a common definition of short hair.

Not to get terribly esoteric, but short hair is...

I agree Headboy! Well said!

Thank you, Tina m, you are a class act and an intelligent person.

Thanks Headboy!

Interesting Brent, you may be right!


I think of myself as having very short hair, -(with a one-half inch long pixie)-, but by your definition I just have short hair not VERY short hair.

Interesting!

Interesting Brent, you may be right!


I think of myself as having very short hair, -(with a one-half inch long pixie)-, but by your definition I just have short hair not VERY short hair.

Interesting!

[QUOTE=HeadBoy] Not to get terribly esoteric, but short hair is...

DaveDecker seems to be refuting Headboy's opinion. It's just that. It's his opinion. Don't be threatened if it's not the same as yours. Don't tell him that he arrived at that opinion due to women's magazine editors. None of us knows what influenced him.

I found his post amusing and thoughtful, and agree that every woman should have short hair once in her life and also have long hair once in her life. Just to experience it. See how it looks. It's like wearing different style clothing.

There's a certain cultish militancy on the Long Hair board. It's as if it's the people who post there in a battle against the rest of the world. The conspirators want to rob them of long hair and make them ugly because they're jealous and hateful.

In fact, I noticed a post on this board from HairAlways, who has long hair usually posts there. Maybe she's going to get a short haircut of just musing about a change. From DaveDecker's post in that thread, I get the impression he feels betrayed that a member of his board might defect.

Perhaps that's not what's intended, but then people don't always give off the impression they intend. While I love long hair on a woman, and my girlfriend has long hair, I prefer short hair and realize there's no place for me on the Long Hair board. My thoughts wouldn't be appreciated. That's a shame, but I understand.

Likewise, this is a board for discussing short hair. If a woman is thinking about a cut, she shouldn't be pushed or encouraged to cut it. I hope she leaves her with something more than she came. Maybe she'll cut it, maybe not, but she shouldn't get negativity either.

On the Long Hair board Headboy's post would be negative and unwelcome, but it shouldn't be here.

Please guys! Peace.
...and Rod, I don't think Dave is being disrespectful to us short haired lovers, he has always been nice to me and he knows I wear a very short hairstyle.

>>>I don't understand why most of these attributes couldn't also apply to long hair.

Not only do they apply, they surpass the statements.

Think about it. It's extremely easy to chop off hair. Gone in a matter of seconds.

Of course, people have different opinions on the aesthetics of length of hair. But the fact is that it requires far more patience and dedication to allow hair to grow to its potential than to cut most of it off. When I had short hair, I looked for every excuse I could find to justify the length, as well. We all want to feel good about ourselves, even if we have very little hair. It's great that people want to feel good about having very little hair on their heads, but what they often claim is an attribute of short hair is simply an attribute of feeling good about oneself in general.

If people were so confident about having such little hair on their heads, why would they feel compelled about making excuses about why short hair is preferable?

[QUOTE=Rod] DaveDecker seems to be refuting Headboy's opinion. It's just that. It's his opinion. Don't be threatened if it's not the same as yours. Don't tell him that he arrived at that opinion due to women's magazine editors. None of us knows what influenced him.

I found his post amusing and thoughtful, and agree that every woman should have short hair once in her life and also have long hair once in her life. Just to experience it. See how it looks. It's like wearing different style clothing.

There's a certain cultish militancy on the Long Hair board. It's as if it's the people who post there in a battle against the rest of the world. The conspirators want to rob them of long hair and make them ugly because they're jealous and hateful.

In fact, I noticed a post on this board from HairAlways, who has long hair usually posts there. Maybe she's going to get a short haircut of just musing about a change. From DaveDecker's post in that thread, I get the impression he feels betrayed that a member of his board might defect.

Perhaps that's not what's intended, but then people don't always give off the impression they intend. While I love long hair on a woman, and my girlfriend has long hair, I prefer short hair and realize there's no place for me on the Long Hair board. My thoughts wouldn't be appreciated. That's a shame, but I understand.

Likewise, this is a board for discussing short hair. If a woman is thinking about a cut, she shouldn't be pushed or encouraged to cut it. I hope she leaves her with something more than she came. Maybe she'll cut it, maybe not, but she shouldn't get negativity either.

On the Long Hair board Headboy's post would be negative and unwelcome, but it shouldn't be here.
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Hi Rod,

You seem to misunderstand my reason for posting in response to Headboy. I am not threatened by his post. I do understand that he expressed his opinion. Re: the magazine editors comment, I should clarify that while I don't believe that everyone who prefers short hair feels that way because of the magazine editors, there is no doubt that magazine editors in recent past decades did frequently promote short haircuts in terms that seemed merely regurgitated by Headboy ("adventure," "confidence," "modern" being the primary adjectives).

Unlike you (and again, this is just a difference of opinion -- neither of us is "right" or "wrong"), I don't believe every woman should try short and long hair at least once in her life. I believe each woman should decide for herself whether or not she wants to try either. If a woman strongly prefers short hair and chooses to wear short hair her whole life, I will be the last to encourage her to grow long. And if a woman strongly prefers long hair and chooses never to wear it short, I would expect that short hair lovers would honor that decision.

I am certain that none of the regulars here would appreciate me or any other long hair lovers making people here feel bad about having short hair. Likewise, as moderator of the LH board, I (and other participants there) do not appreciate people posting there trying to make people feel guilty about having long hair. Call the LH board a "cultish militancy" if you wish, but I'm sure many feelings would be ruffled here if someone trolled on this board looking to make you all feel badly for liking and having short hair. (Doing so is definitely not my interest.)

While I am curious if Jacqui is considering shorter hair, I would not consider such a move to be a "defection." She is certainly free to do as she pleases.

I know Dave is sincere and respectful to us who do prefer wearing short hair. He is always welcome here.

Jennifer, on the other hand, has always gotten into arguements with us on this board, and has often subtly, -(and sometimes blatantly)-, put down those of us who prefer short hair...Case in point, those of us who wear short hair are not "making excuses" on why we wear our hair short Jennifer, we are just giving reasons for our preference, much like the long haired folks do on the long haired board.

And contrary to what Jennifer has said before on this board, short hair on women is certainly not unfeminine, at least not on many women.

But Hairguy, Tony, myself and others who write on the short hair board have made it clear we are not interested in discussing or arguing about" long hair versus short hair" with you Jennifer. That debate IS OVER!

Most of us believe there isn't a superior hair length or style on men or women, it is just a matter of personal preference.

And this is the Short Hair board, a board for short haired lovers!

As Dave said on the Long Haired board, anyone with any length of hair can post there but they need to respect the feelings of the long haired people that post there and not be contrary to their appreciation of long hair.
It is the same with the short hair board, respect our choice, respect short haired men and women or don't bother posting.
Hairguy has done a good job monitoring here, I am sure he will continue to make certain short haired people are respected here!

>>>Case in point, those of us who wear short hair are not "making excuses" on why we wear our hair short Jennifer, we are just giving reasons for our preference

Did you read Dave Decker's post? The reasons that are given for desiring women with very little hair can also be attributed to women with very long hair!

The reasons given for being "sexy," "modern (you'd have to agree that very few women today allow their hair to grow long)" and many other things really have nothing to do with length at all. It's all a matter of preference, which is why it's puzzling that people list attributes that really have nothing to do with length.

The arguement IS OVER Jennifer, we have been through this before! The arguement is over!!!
Don't come here and give us a bad time.

Tina, (the word is "argument"), I'm not arguing. But I hope that you will think for yourself. I know that you love having very little hair upon your head. If that makes you happy, then I think that's great! You've divulged many sad facets of your life, and if you've advanced past those obstacles, I applaud you greatly.

But, do you wish to think for yourself or have life delivered to you upon a silver platter where no one ever questions anything that anyone else says?

If so, then I doubt that you are comfortable with your position in life. It seems to me that a forum where there is never, ever any dissension is a forum where people are not confident of their views and never want them challenged.

I am not challenging the aesthetics of short hair. I fully realize that many people think that short hair is quite desirable. I simply question the reasons why. Again, if you'll read my post, my opinion is that the reasons given are the same reasons that many people prefer long hair (as Dave Decker said).

Kindly put down your gloves and read the words on the page. Expand your mind, as we all should.

I don't need a conversation with you to expand my mind Jennifer, my mind is plenty expanded. I have other people to talk with.
Because of the attitude you have shown to us here before, I really am not interested in having discussions with you.
Hairguy indicated before he would rather you not post on the short hair board. Tony, one of our better contributers said the same.
When I said I don't want to go over this debate again with you Jennifer, I meant it.

And don't ever assume I am comfortable or uncomfortable with my life Jennifer, you know very little about me.
What I know of you Jennifer, I don't like. Is that clear enough?!

Jennifer

Thanks Rod.
You are exactly right, the Hair Politics board is the place for the sort of debate that Jennifer keeps persisting on.

Tina, I'm so sorry that you feel so threatened by me!! I know that you've personally thrown vicious attacks to me in the past, but I certainly hope you've worked over your anger.

Peace, my dear, peace!

You make me laugh Jennifer.
Goodbye Jennifer.

>>>Jennifer, if you want to debate long hair vs. short hair the Hair Politics board would seem the more appropriate place.

If you'll read my post and that of Dave Decker's, I'm really not. But the reasons for enjoying short hair seem to have nothing to do with the length. I think it has far more to do with aesthetics.

What's "cute?" What's "sexy?"

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Again, the reasons for enjoying short hair could also be applied to long hair.

>>>Many girls are raised to think long hair is the ideal of femininity out there.

Perhaps, but that doesn't stop the majority of them from cutting their hair off.

>>>>What

Hi Rod,

First, a compliment to you. Though our opinions on the appeal of hair lengths are not exactly the same , I always like reading what you post because you write with clarity, thoughtfulness, and more.

A brief comment on your latest response to me... yes, I agree, the magazine editors preach change, because change is indirectly good for their bottom line. Besides, things (in general) are always changing, so they can't lose, whether or not they push (oops, I might be slipping off into a politics train of thought there).

Also, you wrote, "Change jobs periodically." As if we have a choice? LOL. The grass is not always greener. And, there is good and bad in just about any job. Thankfully, the job I have now is really good.

And I agree with Tina the latest exchange would be best discussed on the Hair Politics board. I regret to say that I may have helped nudge the conversation off on that tangent. Sorry!

Okay, I'm heading back to the LH board... happy posting SH fans...