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Anomis View Drop Down
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AMY GOODMAN: And the contradictions of hip-hop, I mean, for example, with Jay-Z, videos of women in degrading positions.

MICHAEL ERIC DYSON: Sure. Well, you know, hip-hop at large certainly has to answer and account for the way in which women have been degraded, the vicious assault upon women, to use B and H as the common parlance in reference to women. And it's an interesting irony, maybe even a cruel paradox, in hip-hop. They love their mamas, but hate their baby mamas, love the women who produce them, but hate and loathe the women with whom they produce children. That's not a good recipe or an equation for something healthy and productive.

Now, to its credit, at least we can understand where they're coming from. When you see the misogyny of hip-hop, it's so horrible, it


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That's why I had High hopes for Boss in 93, I know she was Dysons description of the latter choices, ie; overly masculine "kind of reverse-Lothario", I can contend with that more than the promiscuity-Trina comn' right out saying she gone fukm, and sukm, for money with no panties, pitifulsurrender no such thing as a retired prostitute.

I don't even see her as a hip hop artist but her style makes my caseafro.
14 yrs and no female has stepped up, L. Hill said something, but where in the hell did she go? Now N. Furtado all over the place.
Anomis2007-10-12 00:33:06

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[QUOTE=Anomis] I can contend with that more than the promiscuity-Trina comn' right out saying she gone fukm, and sukm, for money with no panties, pitifulsurrender no such thing as a retired prostitute.
I don't even see her as a hip hop artist but her style makes my caseafro.
14 yrs and no female has stepped up, L. Hill said something, but where in the hell did she go? Now N. Furtado all over the place.
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Well there is always Jean Grae. And lol @ Trina I never really liked her anyway all her songs was corny to me she isn't on the same level of skill that Remy,Shawwna, or Jean Grae is on as a matter of fact she has ghostwriters on a regular basis. Using ghostwriters = Sucker MC.

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What? Sorry I don't speak feminist.

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Anomis View Drop Down
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Jkid
duly noted, those are some talented women, grounded.
my major case is the fact that an artist can love his mama, in most cases, but all other women are pu55y pieces. Psychoanalyis is in order.
Rapping about a lived experience.......therapeutic, but to have that be an ongoing philosophy, to that I say
"tell me about your childhood"
4real.
Anomis2007-10-11 18:21:10

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L. Hill I heard is having some major problems



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Last I heard 25, Hill was meditated, I hope the sista is ok.
 
Grae,  ((gotta check for Bahamadia)), M1, Talib, Common, and a few others feel my pain, and agree with my diagnosis.
No empire lasts for ever check it.
Misogyny (hatred, dislike or mistrust of women), and greed, gonna be the end of hip hop, watch, mark my words, and just b/c it's not dead does not mean it's not in agony.
Anomis2007-10-12 00:53:13

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Ignorance is going to do the younger generation of black people in, and I haven't heard about Bahamadia in years.

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[QUOTE=jamaicakid85]Ignorance is going to do the younger generation of black people in, and I haven't heard about Bahamadia in years.[/QUOTE]
 
J, Part of the issue is younger generations taking pride in being ignorant, NOT all of them but some younger cats thinking it's colorful, envogue, to sound like an a-hole. 

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I know that schit pisses me off, you are supposed to eventually grow out of that stage where it's cool to be the "badguy" but the youngins now appear to be on the road to sticking with it and they think it's cool or hard to be incarcerated.
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