AMY GOODMAN: And the contradictions of hip-hop, I mean, for example, with Jay-Z, videos of women in degrading positions.

MICHAEL ERIC DYSON: Sure. Well, you know, hip-hop at large certainly has to answer and account for the way in which women have been degraded, the vicious assault upon women, to use B and H as the common parlance in reference to women. And it's an interesting irony, maybe even a cruel paradox, in hip-hop. They love their mamas, but hate their baby mamas, love the women who produce them, but hate and loathe the women with whom they produce children. That's not a good recipe or an equation for something healthy and productive.

Now, to its credit, at least we can understand where they're coming from. When you see the misogyny of hip-hop, it's so horrible, it

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AMY GOODMAN: And the contradictions of hip-hop, I mean, for example, with Jay-Z, videos of women in degrading positions.

MICHAEL ERIC DYSON: Sure. Well, you know, hip-hop at large certainly has to answer and account for the way in which women have been degraded, the vicious assault upon women, to use B and H as the common parlance in reference to women. And it's an interesting irony, maybe even a cruel paradox, in hip-hop. They love their mamas, but hate their baby mamas, love the women who produce them, but hate and loathe the women with whom they produce children. That's not a good recipe or an equation for something healthy and productive.

Now, to its credit, at least we can understand where they're coming from. When you see the misogyny of hip-hop, it's so horrible, it

That's why I had High hopes for Boss in 93, I know she was Dysons description of the latter choices, ie; overly masculine "kind of reverse-Lothario", I can contend with that more than the promiscuity-Trina comn' right out saying she gone fukm, and sukm, for money with no panties, pitiful no such thing as a retired prostitute.

I don't even see her as a hip hop artist but her style makes my case.