Nas new album N!gger and the Industries Reactions.
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Topic: Nas new album N!gger and the Industries Reactions.
Posted By: jamaicakid85
Subject: Nas new album N!gger and the Industries Reactions.
Date Posted: Oct 27, 2007 at 5:03pm
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Nas announced he was naming his 8th album the N Bomb. Once again, the N done started something. History has a funny way, in a Paul Mooney kind of sense, of repeating itself. Just when we think that the power of innovation has no bounds, the proverbial artistic rug is pulled from under our feet, leaving us suspended in mid-air hoping for a more familiar place to land. But for trailblazers likes Mr. Nasir Jones, pulling a carpet from up under his stance is similar to a magician yanking a table cloth cleanly from under dishes ------------- 
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Replies: 22
Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: Oct 27, 2007 at 5:03pm
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Nas announced he was naming his 8th album the N Bomb. Once again, the N done started something. History has a funny way, in a Paul Mooney kind of sense, of repeating itself. Just when we think that the power of innovation has no bounds, the proverbial artistic rug is pulled from under our feet, leaving us suspended in mid-air hoping for a more familiar place to land. But for trailblazers likes Mr. Nasir Jones, pulling a carpet from up under his stance is similar to a magician yanking a table cloth cleanly from under dishes |
Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: Oct 27, 2007 at 5:06pm
| Me personally naming his album "N" word I don't know but I'm sure there is a reason behind him naming his album that, and with such a controversial album name like "N" word it will make people listen to his message because I'm sure he has something IMPORTANT to say and wants to draw that attention. |
Posted By: Anomis
Date Posted: Oct 27, 2007 at 6:23pm
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Jamaica, I truthfully think it is, the shock factor he had in mind. The nygga word is hot right now, and will for ever be as long as Afro./Black/African American people populate this planet.Now that's not to say that he is not a conscious brother, the brother gets credit due b/c of the content, and his mindset, demonstrated in his art. I personally don't have a problem with the word coming from another person who understands and have lived a nyggas pain. So I do not agree with my nygga Chuck D. I love Chuck, but I do not agree that it is a "bad word". The NAACP burrying the nygga word, and there are ample injustices, that need to be addressed, the least of my worries is having the nygga word burried. Nygga, Nyggarized, Nyggafied, Nyggette, does not bother me till some idiot who can not possibly know how Billie Holiday felt seeing a dead burnt body swinging from a poplar tree, in the deep south. "Strange Fruit", she called it. I digress, my point is that Nas is using Shock, but to what end we shall soon hear, as we listen to his work on the album.
There are a host of racially inflamatory words I steer clear of b/c I know that they are hateful, and harmful
I never allow myself to be called bytch, by another woman, I never , call another woman that.
how do I take it when someone says to me,
"Simona, Uze a no gas havn' azz nygga" Then I turn around and say, "yall some minnie the moocher no ride havn' azz nyggas, and all yall kickn' in" We laugh and it's cool.
Good Topic! |
Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: Oct 27, 2007 at 6:51pm
| Word I still don't allow people to call me a nig with the ER attached to it because I'm not ignorant, but a nigg with the A is more like a factor of expression like I would say "y'all nigg as crazy", or "nah I ain't see that nigg a" I feel that theres a difference and this might be one of the most important hip-hop albums to date kind of like Public Enemy's It Takes A Nation Of Millions. |
Posted By: Anomis
Date Posted: Oct 27, 2007 at 8:18pm
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"ER" was from the racists who enslaved my people, we broke it, so the racist king of it fell out, and now it's something else.
I know one thing for certain,,,,with all this publicity, it's pressure so
Nas betta bring it full throttle, heavy and deep.
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Posted By: Willie SKRILLA
Date Posted: Oct 27, 2007 at 8:57pm
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Nas can do whatever the f**k he wants thats how big a part of my life he is. Some kid he never met is ready to ride or die with him just from listening to Illmatic. Point blank name it whatever you want just don't sugarcoat it with that a is not the same as er ish. It is what it is don't try and change that. < -, aglap5pe ,$< b .4 b` %< $ , -% !!,%$ b` 6 |
Posted By: Anomis
Date Posted: Oct 28, 2007 at 1:04am
| "Cradle of idiocy" |
Posted By: Willie SKRILLA
Date Posted: Oct 28, 2007 at 4:00pm
| I'm gonna have to ask you elaborate on that. Is that aimed at me? Why? < -, aglap5pe ,$< b .4 b` %< $ , -% !!,%$ b` 6 |
Posted By: Anomis
Date Posted: Oct 28, 2007 at 7:14pm
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Oh was I harsh, and abrasive? Belittling and even insulting?
I see your point. I must conduct myself with diplomacy, have a keen sense of what to do or say in order to maintain good relations with others and make an effort to avoid offense. After all is said and done this forum should remain conducive to a spirited, yet respectable exchange of ideas, and ideals with others, less, we find ourselves in a conundrum of pettiness.
Let's see if I can clean it up a bit.......I do not follow human beings, any human being, to the end of the Earth (ride or die), b/c no man is my
G. O. D. Furthermore the "er" vs "a" element of the word in question, is far from "sugar coated shyt". |
Posted By: Willie SKRILLA
Date Posted: Oct 28, 2007 at 7:54pm
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No it is. Its people who want to look for a convenient reason not to feel like the people who called them that years ago. Theres no making a word better by slangularizing the end of it. If thats the case are we gonna see a mexican artist come out with an album called Wetbac or wet bax instead of wetback. Or an Asian artist coming out with a C.D. called Guk or Slopee. No. Fess up if you want to say n***** say n***** but don't act like its different. A n**** is a n**** and a n***** is a n****. A nipple is a nipple if its on a tit instead of breast ain't it. A wetback is a mexican thats mexican is it not. A n***** is a n**** if he's black ain't it. Saying that you've taken the rascism out of it by simply changing the last two letters and acting as if its not the same damn thing is escapism. Now I'm all for Nas doing what he feels is best for him and I'll ride with it but change the word not the slang feel me. The slang is what it is: non recognized english. The word is what it is: recognized english. So if you're gonna move forward with a revolution revolutionize what needs revolutionizing not its little shadow. Thats all I'm saying. Feel me. Smell me. Got me. < -, aglap5pe ,$< b .4 b` %< $ , -% !!,%$ b` 6 |
Posted By: Anomis
Date Posted: Oct 28, 2007 at 8:49pm
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For the sake of argument/debate let's go with your proposition, for just a moment, you are saying the word is now what it was, and will always be, right? You are essentially saying that the origin is maintained no matter what the perception is, or the source it's coming from.
OK, When yo mama calls you baby, isn't that different from a woman calling you baby, or a dude calling you babe? Grown men pressing weight are insulted by their peers pushing them, calling them big azz baby.......
If a man calls me baby, that's different, than an elder saying it to me, a lesbian can not call me babe, baby, baby bunny or anything else.
Don't even get me started on other words that came from the Kings English that Black folk, snatched, broke off, pieces and bits, and jazzed it up., making it acceptable to mean something else entirely.
No need to revolt one way or the other in regards to the word in question,
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Posted By: Willie SKRILLA
Date Posted: Oct 28, 2007 at 9:37pm
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If my mama calls me baby she's referring to me being from her womb. I'll always perpetually be her baby. When someone else calls me baby they are calling me a kid not the product of their loins (I'm kicking their ass if their trying to call me the product of their loins). If a man calls me a babe then well if I remember correctly a babe is newly born child. Not sure how that eventually came to mean fine piece of meat. Maybe from cows or something. But I digress anway I can see what you mean. As far as I'm concerned from an objective perspective its become ingrained into the average black mans vocabulary. Some words have a history to deep to be changed. Thats not saying I don't say it or anything. Just a words history is its history. Burials and sh*t and changing it to make it more respectable don't make it a better word. Thats all I'm saying. If Nas can make it a respectable word more power to him but as of right now its history outweighs its supposed meaning. < -, aglap5pe ,$< b .4 b` %< $ , -% !!,%$ b` 6 |
Posted By: Anomis
Date Posted: Oct 29, 2007 at 3:49am
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it does not detract from me or deminish me in any way Skrilla,
for me to say that you have made your point-we still disagree
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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: Oct 29, 2007 at 7:45am
| Well I still wouldn't say that word in front of like people who were apart of MLK's generation because I know that they especially find that word or any variations of it unacceptable/offensive and are sensitive to it regardless. Now if a KKK member says that to me I will be compelled to beat that ass to a pulp because I know they are saying it to try to belittle me instead of showing respect , and I easily get rattled to a point of wanting to draw blood. |
Posted By: Anomis
Date Posted: Oct 29, 2007 at 12:29pm
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That's a very good point.
I have to admit that when I ride out, and roll up to some mature persons home, I tone the sounds down, b/c , some older folk, (they feel it's disrespectful) I can act a fool, and talk about how I'm grown, this is a "free" country, all that, .........but why? I do not have a desire to do something disrespectful like that.
I had an elderly woman the other day ask me to stop popping my bubble gum,
 LOL, I knocked it off, why not...... LOL? |
Posted By: Anomis
Date Posted: Oct 30, 2007 at 12:21am
| Beat that blood clot boi............. |
Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: Oct 30, 2007 at 10:21am
Mi gunshot gwan rinse him blood  ....... |
Posted By: Anomis
Date Posted: Oct 31, 2007 at 10:21am
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Wa ppun rude bwoy?
Anomis at steppa, check it deep, mi nuh easy, put a Obeah pon da bumboclot, Bald head bait
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Posted By: jamaicakid85
Date Posted: Nov 6, 2007 at 9:45am
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