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Yuko & Hair Coloring Issues [Please Help!]

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Topic: Yuko & Hair Coloring Issues [Please Help!]
Posted By: mesho
Subject: Yuko & Hair Coloring Issues [Please Help!]
Date Posted: Dec 3, 2006 at 3:30am

Hello,

 

My hair is chemically-straightened using the Yuko System. I have had the full treatment done on me (I think, mid-April 2006) and since then have gone to do my roots once (end of August 2006). I am scheduled to do my roots again in a few months.

 

I have dark brown hair and I want to dye it BLACK with a semi-permanent hair color (Level 1). I have two options:

 

1) Either using a semi-permanent vegan hair dye such as MANIC PANIC's Cream Hair Dye in Raven which is said to fade in a few weeks,

 

2) Or, using a semi-permanent drugstore hair color such as CLAIROL's Loving Care in Natural Black which is said to wash off in 6-12 shampoos. 

 

My intention is to use something that would eventually fade out with washing, nothing permanent, and nothing with ammonia or peroxide that might cause further damage to my hair.

 

Now, I have read in a hair salon's website [http://www.aoibeauty.com/en/liscio_hair_straightening.htm] that is licensed to perform all kinds of Japanese Straightening Treatments including Yuko that coloring one's hair black might cause problems when getting your hair straightened with Yuko. Here is the specific question from their FAQ section:

 

 

Q: I have color in my hair, will that matter?

 

A: Tints and semi-permanent hair color that deposit color are not usually any problem at all. If you have had your hair dyed black, please let your Stylist know as this can sometimes create problems.

 

 

I would like to know if this is true or not. Would coloring my hair BLACK (and my preference would be a jet-black or blue-black) prove to be problematic either as soon as I color my hair (i.e. any negative effects would be apparent as soon as I rinse the hair color out of my hair), or when I go to have my roots done and there




Replies: 3
Posted By: mesho
Date Posted: Dec 3, 2006 at 3:30am

Hello,

 

My hair is chemically-straightened using the Yuko System. I have had the full treatment done on me (I think, mid-April 2006) and since then have gone to do my roots once (end of August 2006). I am scheduled to do my roots again in a few months.

 

I have dark brown hair and I want to dye it BLACK with a semi-permanent hair color (Level 1). I have two options:

 

1) Either using a semi-permanent vegan hair dye such as MANIC PANIC's Cream Hair Dye in Raven which is said to fade in a few weeks,

 

2) Or, using a semi-permanent drugstore hair color such as CLAIROL's Loving Care in Natural Black which is said to wash off in 6-12 shampoos. 

 

My intention is to use something that would eventually fade out with washing, nothing permanent, and nothing with ammonia or peroxide that might cause further damage to my hair.

 

Now, I have read in a hair salon's website [http://www.aoibeauty.com/en/liscio_hair_straightening.htm] that is licensed to perform all kinds of Japanese Straightening Treatments including Yuko that coloring one's hair black might cause problems when getting your hair straightened with Yuko. Here is the specific question from their FAQ section:

 

 

Q: I have color in my hair, will that matter?

 

A: Tints and semi-permanent hair color that deposit color are not usually any problem at all. If you have had your hair dyed black, please let your Stylist know as this can sometimes create problems.

 

 

I would like to know if this is true or not. Would coloring my hair BLACK (and my preference would be a jet-black or blue-black) prove to be problematic either as soon as I color my hair (i.e. any negative effects would be apparent as soon as I rinse the hair color out of my hair), or when I go to have my roots done and there



Posted By: Sharyg11
Date Posted: Dec 4, 2006 at 10:30pm
Yes is true, black hair dye could be a problem even if is semi-permanent. The pigment is very deep and even if it is supposed to wash out in a certain amount of time, when it comes to black, it doesn't usually happen, specially is the hair is chemically treated. Would manic panic in black be a problem? it could. Some people have complaint of the black not washing out as it is supposed to. So if your concern is that the dye might not come out, making it a problem to straighten your roots later, you may not want to take that chance.
 
However, applying a protein treatment using heat to the hair, usually helps remove deposit only color (semi-permanent) even black, but is not guaranteed that it will work for everybody.
 
Hair color removers are not good for chemically straighten hair, and could cause mayor damage, so stay away from those.  Thermaly reconditioned hair is very fragile, so you really have to be careful about what products you put in it. The best thing to do, in not to treat it with any more chemicals, and if you must dye it, use professional, semi-permanent color, such as Redken shades EQ, which is the best color to use for hair that has been thermaly reconditioned (straighten with Yuko, Bio-Ionics, Matrix etc)and even then, you should stay away from the black dyes to avoid problems.
 
So I guess is a matter of deciding if it is worth taking the chance.
 
Good luck and beautiful hair.
Shary


Posted By: mesho
Date Posted: Dec 5, 2006 at 8:40am

Thanks for your reply Sharyq!

I didn



Posted By: Sharyg11
Date Posted: Dec 5, 2006 at 10:38pm
Oh OK, I see what you mean. The best place to get the answer you need is verticalsinhair.com. Ask Steve, I'm sure he can answer your question. He is a TR expert.
 
About the redken EQ, you can get it at ebay. That is where my sister gets it. As far as a good OTC semi-permanent color, I really don't know. I have tried them and they are not that great. But you can ask Steve about that as well.
 
Sorry I couldn't help more. Hopefully you can find the answers you need with Steve.
 
Good luck and great hair
 
much love, Shary



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