Can’t get roots blonde...
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Topic: Can’t get roots blonde...
Posted By: Bambilee
Subject: Can’t get roots blonde...
Date Posted: Jan 8, 2006 at 2:32pm
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I'm having a horrible time trying to lighten my roots. I can merely get
them to an orangy/ strawberry blonde color which is fine since some of
my low lights morphed into it. I used a extra light blonde on my hair to lift my black roots, they turned reddy. I left them for a while, tried my purple shampoo and so forth, then went and got an extra light ash blonde. It's doing nothing to the roots, it's merely darkening some of my extra light parts. My hair has a ring around it, the hairdresser was afraid of it due to teh fact she thought if she used any bleach near it, my hair would break off. (It does but it doesn't bother me because I style it a lot and with the dry broken ends I can create lots of lift for my hair. Surprise surprise.) anyways, I can't lift my roots. They just turn a funny color.... I'm leaving in my ash color right now for a while hoping to lighten them just al ittle more. I don't care if they aren't as light as my ends, but I don't want them orange. Most people don't notice, it's just me. I dont' want to use bleach, due to the ring, where I used to use bleach... I can't do it myself or I'll touch it and then end up with short pieces. I dont' know what to do. :( ------------- ~* Bambi Lee *~ |
Replies: 31
Posted By: Bambilee
Date Posted: Jan 8, 2006 at 2:32pm
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I'm having a horrible time trying to lighten my roots. I can merely get
them to an orangy/ strawberry blonde color which is fine since some of
my low lights morphed into it. I used a extra light blonde on my hair to lift my black roots, they turned reddy. I left them for a while, tried my purple shampoo and so forth, then went and got an extra light ash blonde. It's doing nothing to the roots, it's merely darkening some of my extra light parts. My hair has a ring around it, the hairdresser was afraid of it due to teh fact she thought if she used any bleach near it, my hair would break off. (It does but it doesn't bother me because I style it a lot and with the dry broken ends I can create lots of lift for my hair. Surprise surprise.) anyways, I can't lift my roots. They just turn a funny color.... I'm leaving in my ash color right now for a while hoping to lighten them just al ittle more. I don't care if they aren't as light as my ends, but I don't want them orange. Most people don't notice, it's just me. I dont' want to use bleach, due to the ring, where I used to use bleach... I can't do it myself or I'll touch it and then end up with short pieces. I dont' know what to do. :( < A`a @de |
Posted By: Bambilee
Date Posted: Jan 8, 2006 at 3:44pm
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I guess it's not that bad, depends solely on the light. I hate florusent lighting it makes everything look soooo orange. It's def. not what I want but it looks fine. It looks very red wet, for some reason.. Real light makes it look nicer and light from inside a small room makes it look a little peachy colored. Stupid light. argh. I'm still blonde. Stupid hair. I better just not look at it when it's wet, or I'll keep dying it till I screw it up. a little reddy but not bad I guess. Looks green in some light. It's lighter than what it looks like in this pic. To sum it up, I'd call it peach with platinum pieces. LOL The low lights have fadedthey are those peacy colored parts... I wish my hair was all the light colored pieces but it's not. Oil well...  here is another picture of it in artifical light. It looks really fine on me. It makes no diffrence, I think for looks. It isn't crazy bleach blonde but it works.  
So all and all it doesn't look half bad, just as long as no one is
staring right at my scalp. Oh Bambi... you just crazzzy! Lets
just hope an airplane doesn't fly over my head or someone see's me
praying. I should be good. ;) |
Posted By: aubergine
Date Posted: Jan 8, 2006 at 3:53pm
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I hate light too. In bright sunlight my messy hair looks like a
dramatic rainbow of red roots, then reddy brown lengths (with streaks
of god knows what colours...mud for all I know!) and then black
roots. It's awful and makes me sad, because I haven't had chance
to sort it out yet, and I start college again tomorrow. But then it a more normal light my hair looks totally dark brown...it's just so misleading! Those picture look great...I can't see the orange. |
Posted By: Bambilee
Date Posted: Jan 8, 2006 at 3:58pm
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Yeah it's light. In my bathroom my hair looks very orange but in every
othe r light it looks fine. I better stop hanging out in my bathroom I
think. :) I had that trouble when I had dark brown hair. In natural light my hair looked reddy and I hated it. :) < A`a @de |
Posted By: Bambilee
Date Posted: Jan 8, 2006 at 4:01pm
 There is
that freakin' peach! It looks okay i guess. But I don't like it. That's
my dark brown lifted to whatever color you want to call it. Natural
light.... god I think I need a tan. LOL< A`a @de |
Posted By: aubergine
Date Posted: Jan 8, 2006 at 4:05pm
| Don't tan! I've always thought blonde looked a lot better and natural on paler skin. |
Posted By: Rebekah
Date Posted: Jan 8, 2006 at 6:08pm
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I think that color is GOLD or maybe a little orange/gold http://www.thecreativestudio.com/main.jsp?nav=studio/colorth eory/pigment&file=m_pigment.html In order to get your hair lighter, you'll really need to bleach. "I can't lift my roots. They just turn a funny color" If your roots are black, then you'll get a lighter color with highlift (Is that what you're using?), but it will be rather BRASSY or that funny color that you don't like. "I used a extra light blonde on my hair to lift my black roots, they turned reddy" This extra light blonde sounds neutral to me, and neutral will have red pigments that will be added to your red undertones, creating, you guess it more RED "then went and got an extra light ash blonde" The ash has some green which neuralized the red, but the dye simply isn't pigmented enough to fight a brassy gold/orange color. (I think you'd need to get a dark ash blonde to tone this color down) What is this band that you got when bleaching? Did you overlap? If you want a nice "natural" looking color, you'll need to not use a highlift. Use permanent ash color, two shades lighter than what your natural color is. I think you might be able to then bleach highlights on top of that, but don't overlap the sections already bleached. Good luck and hope this helps. %! ied Dq @ 8 B` b .,($$ (--%%%,%4bp #. |
. Posted By: anitan28
Date Posted: Jan 8, 2006 at 8:21pm
| it doesnt look bad at all.but i kno how it is. im hard on my hair too even if it isnt noticable . |
Posted By: Alayney
Date Posted: Jan 8, 2006 at 9:10pm
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I totally hear ya on the light thing! The only place my hair looks halfway to my liking is at the salon. I get home and I could scream! LOL! I agree, your color doesn't look bad at all but I know how it is -- you want it to be a certain way and it's just not quite right -- the story of my life! I really do like the picture though, where you're calling it "peach." Peach and platinum sounds nice! I don't understand why your hairdresser didn't want to do the root touchup. Had you already done something to them yourself before you went to her? I don't see why there would be a problem -- how else are you supposed to maintain your color? I mean, they do it all the time at the salons ... |
Posted By: Bambilee
Date Posted: Jan 9, 2006 at 12:54pm
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LOL. The band is from overlapping. I do my hair myself and it
isn't like I have foils or I can actually see the back of my head, and
also the band is from the diffrence of color between my very processed
hair and my roots that aren't as processed. The ends as you can see are
rather light, that's lots of bleaching and coloring. I wanted my hair
that color but the hairdresser wouldn't do it. The band disapears after a few dying jobs, but comes back due to new growth. It grows out so that doesn't bother me. But it def. bothers hairdressers who won't use bleach on my hair. How do I prevent overlapping? I can't if I do it myself. I've had breakage, mostly at the back of my head, which is fine, cause I hot iron them and create volume with them. But the breakage has grown out so it looks better. However if I do bleach a little I will end up with breakage. What kind of prodcut can I get an ash color? My sister is using XL0 in Loreal' she says it worked for her... her hair isn't orange. Garh. I need help. LOL The hairdresser I think was pushing more to bringing back my natural color with blonde highlights, she didn't say it to me flatly but she hinted to it. I wanted my whole head one color but she suggested lowlights with some of my natural color to "blend" ion the roots. She didnt' use any bleach, she lifted my roots a little to blend them with some of my highlights, but they weren't blonde. For all purposes, i am not looking for a natural color really. Natural blonde really isn't what I was going for, but I don't mind it. It works for me. The orangy/peachy color bothers me, but I can live with it. It looks fine when I do my hair up. < A`a @de |
Posted By: Bambilee
Date Posted: Jan 9, 2006 at 12:59pm
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Is there a bleach that isn't very strong I can get. OTC. I am in canada and we can't get beauty store products here. < A`a @de |
Posted By: KellyH
Date Posted: Jan 9, 2006 at 3:37pm
To lighten my lowlights (that were too dark) I used Clairol Summer Blonde. I didn't leave mine on very long.....so it was pretty gentle. Plus, your new growth/virgin hair is stronger. Just try your best not to overlap. I know it's hard doing it yourself.  The shade I used was Light Natural Beach Blonde, but you may want to try the cool shade. http://www.clairol.com/brand/blonding/summerblonde.jsp |
Posted By: Rebekah
Date Posted: Jan 9, 2006 at 5:45pm
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You know I LOVE L'Oreal Excellence Creme Lights, but it's not for on the scalp application. You could use it to put a few highlights in and break up those rings from overlapping (use foils). I've done this to hide using a different tone or level of color for my base and it seems to make everything blend in nicely. I think the best way to not overlap is to have some help with the back. Remember that bleach SWELLS so allow some room for it to swell. You could do some tests with your hair to decide how long the roots should be prior to bleaching and how much the bleach you are using swells. Does that make sense. I think you can let roots get as long as 3/4 of an inch before you get what's called hot roots--when the scalp processes faster due to heat than the hair further from the scalp. You could try toning the orangey peachy parts with Natural Instincts in Linen. I think it's over the counter, but strand test first. Good luck and I hope this helps! By the way I think your hair is beautiful. I sort of like the warm vibrant colors... |
Posted By: Bambilee
Date Posted: Jan 9, 2006 at 8:27pm
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Yes bleach swells. I'm going to use a bleach otc and then get something
to tone it down a bit. I'm only going to do the front parts.... that's
where I'm having the trouble really. The two front pieces of my hair, I
was thinking of just buying a highlighting kit, cause those usually use
a bleach and there won't be much to waste. However I think they are
more expensive. Anywhoo I'm giong to teh drugstore tomorrow. My b.f
must be getting fed up with me constnatly buying dye. I don't dye under my head. Due to the fact I hardly EVER wear my hair up. EVER! So no one sees under there anyways. :) I used a cool color once on my bleached hair. It turned out purple. I was horrified. I stay away from cool colors. :S < A`a @de |
Posted By: Bambilee
Date Posted: Jan 9, 2006 at 9:15pm
Do you think this would lift my color more? < A`a @de |
Posted By: Rebekah
Date Posted: Jan 9, 2006 at 9:20pm
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Sorry to hear about the cool colors! GASP! Strand test the Frost & Tip to see. I'm not sure what will happen... It seems like it should, but it's much more damaging to hair to use a highlift, then tone, then bleach, but you could always try. Good luck! Rebekah %! ied Dq @ 8 B` b .,($$ (--%%%,%4bp #. |
Posted By: Bambilee
Date Posted: Jan 9, 2006 at 9:27pm
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Ick this really sucks.... I know it's going to turn orange. Freakin
stupid. I'm kidn of mad cause it's the brown lowlights i had put in my
hair it washed out into this dumb red . here is what i'm naturally
lifting from. Underneath these locks is that... meet my natural hair. So you can totally understand why it's turning reddy. I gotta do something I can't even look at myself in the mirror. Lots of peopel like it but I find it ucky. I think even if I lifted some of the red and then put something in the lighter parts.  my
hairdresser left it. I don't dye underneath as you can see. She asked
me if I wore my hair up. I said no. This is about...5 months of growth.If I use the bleach. (I'm not going to touch the lighter parts near the back...) What's a highlift? The light chunks on my hair that I would light the whole top layer to be is, the second from the top on the blonde side. They are exactly that color.  |
Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: Jan 10, 2006 at 9:41am
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Overall you hair looks so nice I'm having trouble getting my eyes to only look at your roots.... sorry not much help i know! |
Posted By: Bambilee
Date Posted: Jan 10, 2006 at 3:40pm
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I'm doing the frost and tip right now, only the two front pieces and a
little at my roots, to bring out some of the orangey hue. I think it
may work if I am patient. Awe thanks Hal. :) I wish I could see that. |
Posted By: Blondie1972
Date Posted: Jan 10, 2006 at 6:31pm
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Good luck Bambilee~ I'm sure it will turn out beautifully! Hope you post a photo too, so we can see how it all turned out. |
Posted By: Rebekah
Date Posted: Jan 10, 2006 at 6:53pm
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Well good luck with the frost and tip. Bleach lasts for 90 min, as long as it doesn't dry out, after that, rinse it out and reapply a new batch. A true highlift is when one uses two parts 40 vol. peroxide to one part color--Both L'Oreal and Clairol make highlift dyes. I think the HL's at the drug store are only 30 vol though. I hope this helps and good luck with the bleaching! By the way, as I said before I like your hair, it's pretty! |
Posted By: Alayney
Date Posted: Jan 11, 2006 at 2:57am
Posted By: ammonia Date Posted: Jan 11, 2006 at 5:07am
Posted By: Bambilee Date Posted: Jan 11, 2006 at 12:19pm
Posted By: Bambilee Date Posted: Jan 11, 2006 at 12:22pm
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it blends rather nicely.
those are the roots...
that's what
it looks like... I wish I could walk around with a light over my head ALL the time if my hair and skin looks that good! lol