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Topic: ExtendMagic close up 2 root&face PICS ;)
Posted By: CyberMane
Subject: ExtendMagic close up 2 root&face PICS ;)
Date Posted: Sep 22, 2005 at 9:27pm

Hi!

Just thought I'd share some close up shots of new machine .  So far, I have gotten 99% positive feedbacks from my clients who are trying my 'special f/x' hilites.  Only one client complained of shedding.  But then again, she complained about the Shrink Links, the locs, the cyber too.  I think she's just a complainer.

I have also seen the almost 1 month results.  I am very impressed!  I really love the fact that the bond is so thin in comparison to the pre-bonded single strands I have tried.  Can't wait for December to come- 3 months into trail.  I should have more full head installs by then.  Still in the lab... 

Strands from left to right-

flattend, rolled, pressed, pressed with some hair above

ENJOY!

xoxox, Charlene



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Replies: 99
Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Sep 22, 2005 at 9:27pm

Hi!

Just thought I'd share some close up shots of new machine .  So far, I have gotten 99% positive feedbacks from my clients who are trying my 'special f/x' hilites.  Only one client complained of shedding.  But then again, she complained about the Shrink Links, the locs, the cyber too.  I think she's just a complainer.

I have also seen the almost 1 month results.  I am very impressed!  I really love the fact that the bond is so thin in comparison to the pre-bonded single strands I have tried.  Can't wait for December to come- 3 months into trail.  I should have more full head installs by then.  Still in the lab... 

Strands from left to right-

flattend, rolled, pressed, pressed with some hair above

ENJOY!

xoxox, Charlene

$- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.%%%,!) % -!,%,bb ,.


Posted By: Dunebug
Date Posted: Sep 22, 2005 at 9:48pm

Wow! that looks amazing! the bonds are so small. I may have to get myself out to see you if they hold up well. You are in pennsylvania right?

 



Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Sep 22, 2005 at 10:00pm

Originally Posted By: Dunebug#t $ @ ,%`ab a

Aren't they?   And I put it close to the FACE too!

Yes!  I have a location in North Eastern PA and in NYC!

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Posted By: Dunebug
Date Posted: Sep 22, 2005 at 11:00pm

Yeah, that one is practically on the hairline!

Fabulous, if these hold up well for your ladies I will definately be coming to see you, those bonds are teeny!



Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: Sep 23, 2005 at 1:51am

Hey Charlene, what do you mean by flattened?

I just did my first full head install of EM tonight.  It went ok.

Are you pretipping the hair with the EM first or just installing loose hair?  If you pretip with the EM and then use the EM to install, that's using twice as much of the EM adhesive tape, thus increasing the product cost per client.

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Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Sep 23, 2005 at 3:44am

pressed with some hair above - what does that mean Char, those bonds look hot! x

Metal - I think on the first one she just used the machine, I don't think she pressed, rolled or anything just flattened it with the machine.  I was told that if you pre-bond, then you just take the cartridge/tape out of the machine and then just use that cos its still hot xx How long did it take you to do your first full head chick xx

 @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: ammonia
Date Posted: Sep 23, 2005 at 4:39am

:O <~ my reaction to those tiny bond thingys.. this is so good!



Posted By: Lynn74
Date Posted: Sep 23, 2005 at 10:01am
Wow!  Does this method work with synthetic hair?


Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: Sep 23, 2005 at 10:27am

Hi Amanda,

I used a 4 ounce weft of bohyme that I cut hairs off of to install loose as I went.  It took 5 hours for me to do.

Lynn74- My experience has not been good with this machine and synthetic hair, either monofiber or thermofiber.  What has happened with both types of hair is that when they are heated by the machine, the fake hair gets too hot and it melts the tape.  When the tape melted ( I didn't realize it initially) , as I did a few more strands and  the tail of the tape in the cartridge  got all tangled up in one of the gears, making it so the machine would not advance the tape anymore.  Basically it breaks the tape cartridge and at $25 each, that's not cheap.  I wasted 2 tape cartridges by trying to use synthetic fibers with this system.

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Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Sep 23, 2005 at 10:33am
So what's your honest opinion after doing it Metalgirl I've managed to knock my UK supplier down so I'm getting one next week hopefully xx Do you think you'll get quicker than 5 hours and did you get as close and did they look as good as Char's, also did you press or roll xx Well done anyway girl!x @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Sep 23, 2005 at 11:11am
Hey g/fs

For these pics, I used all loose hair. I determine the amount of
strand, cut the to even, align to the natural hair, close the
machine {inverted}, turn the strand left and right to coat enough
glue, push the machine up towards the scalp a bit to coat the
top, release the machine, then press or roll together.

Metal- I find that if you use a lot of hair then you need a lot of
glue. I try to make thinner strands. It just needs one coat!
Prebonding takes too, too long. I bought this machine for
speedier installs

I also tired it with the eurolocs hair {stick hair}- so far so good-
but we'll see...

-Char
PS. I'm still in the lab with these, so I'll keep you all posted.

Can't wait to see your pics, Lisa! $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.%%%,!) % -!,%,bb ,.


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Sep 23, 2005 at 12:49pm
Well that sounds good to me.  I'll follow those instructions.  I'm getting mine next week so I can't wait xx @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: Sep 23, 2005 at 7:56pm

I was wondering how it would do with stick hair?

I do think this will become faster as I get more familiar with it.

Char, I'm not getting the inverted gun thing.  I tried to do it like that, but it was not working for me.  I think with the blue cover facing me, that I was able to get pretty close to the root for the most part.

I think I like this method.  It just depends on how it holds up over the course of 12 weeks.  I have a couple other girls in the salon who want to be guinea pigs, so I'll get more practice.

I didn't take pictures of last night's install because we didn't get done with it until 11:30PM (we got a late start).  The install was done on a stylist where I work, so I'll take a picture of the bonds when I see her next and post it.

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Posted By: juliejetson
Date Posted: Sep 23, 2005 at 10:02pm
Charlene those bonds look great! (no surprise )

I did a few pieces with EM on a girl that I did pinchbraids on two weeks ago. Using both ways, some without pre-bonding the hair and some with pre-bonding the hair first and then attaching with the EM machine. And I didn't even wash her hair first(it was dirty). I emailed her a week ago asking if she had any problems, and so far no news(she would tell me if they came out). I am thinking no news is good news.

And I also used EM to prebond hair before using pro-tubes, and it was really easy. That was two weeks ago and no complaints. But the machine did jam up on me two times during that process. I think you just need to clean it while using it while doing a full head.




Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Sep 23, 2005 at 10:15pm

Originally Posted By: juliejetson ``,$&$ 4()`` `a.

OMG!!!  Girl- welcome back!!!   Yup, I agree.  I clean all my current machines like the Great Lengths too.  I'm playing it safe by just doing some f/x right now.  Soon I'll graduate to the full heads!

Lisa- try hold the strands at 12:00, this way you can get really close and invert the machine.

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Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Sep 27, 2005 at 10:46pm

Update on the 1% guneia pig {the complainer}.

It seems that she prefers EM after all.  She says that in comparison to the pre-bonded hairs that she tried, the EM glue is more soft and bendable,  more comfortable {which means she didn't need to take pain killers} and more invisble than the rest.  And lastly, the glue, regardless how thin, is very durable.  Easy removal is a big plus too.

Hello Development- welcome!  Could you please share some info about your experiences with this machine- tips on proper installation, cleaning, any tips you can share would be extremely helpful.  Have you tried this machine installing wefts, integrations, etc...  How many heads can you average about with 1 cartridge?  How long does it take you to do a full head?  Have you tried this with synthetic hair?  Also post some pictures, so we all can see the inside of your work.  We have not received hands on training except for a Korean-English DVD.  Most of the girls are not familiar with doing fusion.  Please, anything you can provide would be very, very helpful and extremely appreciated.

Again thank you for your time, Charlene

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Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Sep 29, 2005 at 11:57am
ooooooooo I got my extendmagic today, its a lot smaller than I imagined.  I'm just watching the dvd for it now so I'll keep you posted x @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: development
Date Posted: Sep 29, 2005 at 2:52pm

ok keep me posted

stan

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Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Sep 29, 2005 at 4:30pm

Here are the pictures of my first practice.  Oh hi Stan by the way.  I feel pretty confident already that I can use it so I'm going to do my first client Saturday.  This machine is really really easy to use.  I used loose hair and used it using the black side (mine's black) facing me.  Removal is an absolute breeze, I couldn't believe how hard wearing and tough the bond felt and how easy it came out.  Its like fusion without all the mess.  The only thing I found was that I had to double coat these strands xx

 @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Sep 29, 2005 at 4:33pm
Hey, there it is on the right hand side in the second picture he he its not half as big as I thought it was going to be.  Another point, there is initial shedding with the hairs that weren't properly coated but this seemed to calm down.  I think with this method you will get shedding but I think it will be somewhere inbetween shrinkies and fusion, not as little shedding as shrinkies but no where near fusion shedding xx @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: Gina E
Date Posted: Sep 29, 2005 at 4:39pm

Wow!

Those look great Amanda...how long did it take? Would the timing be comprable to fusion?

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Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Sep 29, 2005 at 4:42pm
I've not done a lot of fusion to be honest but it usually takes me around ten minutes with shrinkies to do the section that I did and it took me 9 cos my hubby timed me x Its just grab your strand and press and roll, its sooo easy, I would recommend everyone to get these, I think I would even feel confident doing the back of my own head with this machine, I think I'd pre-bond first and then use the machine though on myself x Thanks so much Darren  xxx @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: Koffee Brown
Date Posted: Sep 29, 2005 at 5:12pm
Amanda , Is Darren the person you purchased from. How much are they? I emailed fast beauty and I was quoted $600 and $35 per cartridge. Is that a decent price?

ETA: Those bonds look terrific!
Koffee Brown38624.721412037!


Posted By: greathairday
Date Posted: Sep 29, 2005 at 5:36pm
Has anyone had success with any kind of synthetic and this machine?
(mono or thermo) Looks cool... ) C` hate a % $ ` !(0 ` )>--


Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Sep 29, 2005 at 5:37pm

Oh chick!

That is beautiful!   This is just the beginning and more FUN is coming up!!!  You'll be doing reusables, bald spots, more to come!!!

WOOHOO

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Posted By: amm
Date Posted: Sep 29, 2005 at 5:47pm
Those bonds look awesome. Is that the machine on the right hand
side of the photo laying on the table?

So, it's about $600, $25-$35 a cartridge and how many strands will a
cartridge do? It won't do synthetic hair at all? Does it generate a lot
of noise? What kind of glue is used and is acetone used for removal?
If you need to redo a strand for whatever reason, how easy is it to
remove the bond right after it's installed?

Inquiring heads want to know. $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.!( ),))%!,,%$<"b .4


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 3:45am

Right here goes he he.  Koffee, yes that's about what I paid so I'd snap that price up as quick as you can because Darren is going to a hair show soon with these machines and the price will be about $1100 after that.

Char - lol, I'm already thinking of finding a bald guinea pig, I can't wait to try that, imagine how happy someone is going to be.  What are reusables by the way?

Amm - You neeeeeeed one of these machines, its something you would absolutely love.  I can get one off Darren for you if you want and send it to you.  Yes that's the machine on the right hand side.  A cartridge will do around 300 small strands.  It does human and synthetic hair but you have to be careful you don't hold it down too long on the synthetic, that will cause the tape to overheat and snap that's all.  There is absolutely no noise at all.  The glue used is a guarded secret and we're not allowed to know that.  You use acetone or oil for removal.  I'd just use oil because there is hardly any residue left on the hair, even less than with shrinkie removal.  You won't be able to get your breath how they look exactly like fusion but tinier and come straight out with such ease its unbelievable.  I can't tell you how easy removal is.  I put one in, removed it and when I removed it, you didn't lose the hair like with fusion, you ended up with a prebonded strand so the hair is totally reusable.  You just press the tape button off and use the machine to reinstall it, then I took that back off and there was still only a tiny bit of residue on and the strand came straight back off prebonded yet again, fab!  And then I put it back on with the pen that's usually used for the micro-strands!  If the bond wasn't quite right but it had enough glue on, say a couple of hairs hadn't fused in then all I did was turn off the tape button and reheat and roll with the machine. 

x

 

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Posted By: LauraR
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 9:56am

Has anyone tried this on AA hair?

I think I need one.  Amanda do you think you would be able to use it on yourself?

LauraR38625.4171875


Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 10:08am

Originally Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo `` , $@, @! a$

Hey chick! The reusables are, ya know, like the locs, the tubes, any metals.

I want to add this- Making strands that look like 'COMBED HAIR' - align the strands together extension and client's hair, separate the extension, pull the trigger to close, using intervals of 3 secs- move strands left and right, slowly pull down- VOILA!  It really looks like each single strand of your client's hair is 'growing real hair' without balls of glue!  I love it!  I can't say enough good things about it!

I would only use olive oil instead of acetone to remove them.  You can also remove the tape cartridge and use the heat of the machine.

-Char

$- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.%%%,!) % -!,%,bb ,.


Posted By: Koffee Brown
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 11:39am
ok amanda! Thanks for all that info.. That sounds HOT. U sold me! I'm ordering as soon as I can reach Fast Beauty. Now, for clarification is Darren and FastBeauty the same? Oh and do you know if it comes w/ any cartridges? And does the color matter for cartridge? My hair is black/dark brown. THANKS !


Posted By: Koffee Brown
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 11:41am
 Amanda, One more thing, are you getting a special deal from Darren? I noticed you offered to purchase for someone and I was wondering if there was a discount from ordering thru you? TIA !


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 12:18pm

Laura - I don't know what AA hair is, sorry to be dumb.  I will definitely be able to use it on myself.

Char - I don't get the process you are describing, what do you mean separate the extension hair?  What do you mean move strands left and right and slowly pull down, do you mean pull down the hair strand with the machine closed for the three seconds and then open?  Do you not use the pen for balding then and prebond x

Koffee - Yes Darren is part of Fast Beauty, there is a cartridge inside the machine but I also bought a box of five.  I asked Darren for you and he confirms its $600 for the machine, $30 per cartridge and then $31 for posting, he says he can get it to you in 7 days if you're in America.  The colour is clear.  Deal with Darren direct, there's no discount ordering through me chick xx

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Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 1:05pm

Originally Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo `` , $ .$` @e$

Separate like you fan it out.  I haven't used the pen it.  I never prebond.  I bought this machine so I can do faster extensions.  Prebonding would be using those prebonded strands and I've got lots of those laying around anyway. You then kind of wiggle it while you have the machine closed.  Gosh it's harder to explain in words.  But that's how Myun taught me.

xoxox, Char

CyberMane38625.5458912037 $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.%%%,!) % -!,%,bb ,.


Posted By: LauraR
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 2:13pm

Amanda ~ sorry I was being lazy with my typing

AA= African American



Posted By: Koffee Brown
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 2:16pm
thanks Amanda (one of my fav names, BTW). How hard would it be to use it on yourself in the back of the head?

And to answer for Laura, AA means African American hair. I asked 'darren' and he said A-A women have ordered the machine  and it can be used on AA hair.

ETA: Amanda, your unit doesnt  look like the unit in the pix on website?
Koffee Brown38625.6025694444!


Posted By: LauraR
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 2:25pm

Thanks Koffee ~

Are you going to get this?



Posted By: Koffee Brown
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 2:28pm
Originally Posted By: LauraR< 4@( & @ "`@ d .

yes
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Posted By: LauraR
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 3:24pm
Cool ~ keep me posted, I really want one but want to make sure it works for AA hair


Posted By: Koffee Brown
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 3:45pm
Originally Posted By: LauraR#d` , @ 0 `@ ``"

According to Darren at FBeauty, they can be used on AA hair, so i'm trusting him.
!


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 3:59pm

Mine just has a black cover on instead of a blue one.  I've used shrinkies on AA hair with success and I wouldn't see any reason at all why this machine couldn't also be used on AA hair, it gives a really strong but flexible bond and Darren certainly knows his stuff so I'd trust what he says too.

I think this would be so easy to do the back of your head, I'm going to pre-bond first and then use the machine to install them at the back of my head.  I'm doing my first EM client tomorrow so I'll post pictures of before during and after x

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Posted By: LauraR
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 4:56pm

pictures! pictures! (jumping up and down)

I can't wait



Posted By: amm
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2005 at 5:39pm
Originally Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo< 4, " , $A @ $

The "No Synth" rule may be a deal breaker for me, though. That's a lot of money for a little machine that constantly needs money fed into it for it to work. Think I'll wait for the price to get a bit more realistic. $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.!( ),))%!,,%$<"b .4


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 1, 2005 at 2:22am
My supplier Darren says you can use synth chick xxx @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: FinaFina
Date Posted: Oct 1, 2005 at 8:24am

Gals,

Sorry I've been SO out of the loop . . . just kinda lurking around and enjoying my lush hair and still facing the ultimate quandary of what is the best attachment method. . .THIS LOOKS ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!!!  Amanda, how do I contact Darren? ? ? Sorry I surfed around a bit and couldn't find the info (it's probably here, and I've gotten lazy).  Let me know!!

Many thanks!! - Fina



Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 1, 2005 at 1:57pm

Hi there chick, no problem you can e-mail him through his website www.fastbeauty.co.uk xx

Here's my client.  The install took me five hours but I assume I'll get quicker.  The thing I noticed was I had to close the machine twice to get a decent amount of glue on the thickness of the stands that I use.  I can't see how you can do a full head in 2 hours I'm sure but anyway, another thing is you have to be careful not to catch stray hairs from either side in the bond.  I suppose it would be best to use one of those little plastic guards but that would have took even longer.  11 out of 10 though.  I can't believe I got this much hair in with such tiny bonds, when she was done I ran my hand down her hair and you could hardly flipping tell she had anything in her hair, this truely is the most undetectable method so far on the market.  I bodged a couple so I just took them straight back out and redid them, took about a second, so easy.  Any other questions feel free.  Client loves this and so do I.

Amanda8Beechwoo38626.583287037 @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: marie87
Date Posted: Oct 2, 2005 at 6:28am
Amanda, are Stan and Daren from the same company? I am ordering on monday or tuesday which ever I have time. Anna Lee will not have them till Oct. 20 so I thought I would just order from one of these guys depending on the price diferance.


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 2, 2005 at 6:31am
No chick Darren is from www.fastbeauty.co.uk and Stan is from www.hair-development.com they are both UK companies but I got mine from Darren, he has them in stock.  I think Stan isn't getting any for 28 days x @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: marie87
Date Posted: Oct 2, 2005 at 6:41am

Wow your quick!!! Thanks girl! Daren it is then. I had e-mailed him on the price and I think it was only a bit more than what Anna Lee wanted and if I can pay pal that will save on the bank transfer charge

 

 Hey Charleen can you post a photo of that metond of moving the machine back and forth. How are these strands different than regular strands. Sorry just not folowing you



Posted By: Scotchyroo
Date Posted: Oct 2, 2005 at 8:21am

Oh my god,  those bonds are perfect!!!  Were you able to get by with less rows? or was it about the same?

    Please keep us up to date on her experience with wear and tear.  Thanks!!!



Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 2, 2005 at 12:51pm

I got by with about the same amount of rows but it wasn't as thick an install but still plenty of hair.  

I did another client today, this was a full head of 18inch, this took me 6 1/2 hours.  This is because this client had a lot of baby hair so I had to be really careful not to get it trapped.  It was an absolute pain in the butt.  I used one of those little plastic guards which was great but then I couldn't get close enough with the bond then so I just had to manage and I know I saw her winch a couple of times when I knew I'd trapped some hair and had to get it back out but saying that she's had shrinkies and she says this is much better, it lays a lot flatter and is so much more undetectable.  So any ideas on how to rectify the baby hair problem guys? x

Also another point I would make is don't just clean this machine after use.  I would say clean it inside every 2 hours because it jammed on me about 4 times because I didn't do this x

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Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Oct 2, 2005 at 1:05pm

WOW chick- that's sooo cool!!!   And you're getting lots of full head installs with very good feedbacks!  Congrats!!! U R DA BOMB!

What I do is use the velcro for the top and bottom so I won't get any baby hairs or traveling hairs stuck to my strands.  Mine was given to me by IHI.  They only sell to pros.  But I read in a thread somewhere that you can get it for $20.  Metalgirl has one.  It is white and very wide.  I think she posted it on some thread.  I've also seen this on the seamless video.  I don't use the shield for this, just the velcro.  The strands come nice and clean- no traveling hair or any short hairs getting caught.  It also grows out like an even 'I' instead of a 'C' or an 'S'.

Marie, line up the strands together {fan them out}, then clamp down, then slowly pull the extension hair down.  It will look like 'combed hair' instead of 'tube' glue.  I'll post some pics soon.

Charlene

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Posted By: marie87
Date Posted: Oct 2, 2005 at 1:17pm
You can buy velcro at fabric store by the inch and it comes in different widths. Is it just the nuby side od regular velcro. I saw it in the seamless video too. Charleen I can't wait to see the pic's!


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 2, 2005 at 1:36pm
ooooo I am soooo glad that there is actually something I can buy I was panicking there, now I've just got to find where to get some??? What is it actually called Char so I can do a search x @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: Scotchyroo
Date Posted: Oct 2, 2005 at 4:10pm

Holy Mackril,  Cybermane,  that's genius.  I'm off to Jo Ann's  I can use that with all of my chicks with the super damaged baby hairs.  Thanks.



Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Oct 2, 2005 at 6:38pm

Originally Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo,#d`.  @, "da @ $

velcro strip , I think?  Use the ones with the teeth, not the padding.

Scotty, this is a LIFESAVER

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Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 3, 2005 at 4:51am
I have found where to get one of these from www.superhairfactory.com, the only problem is they want $70 for shipping which is ridiculous.  Would anyone be prepared to get me a couple and i'll paypal them the money and then them send it to me in the UK? xxx It would be much appreciated x @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Oct 3, 2005 at 6:52am

Originally Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo ``&$ $@$ $ a @`$

I'll get it for you, chick.  I need some large ones myself.

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Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 3, 2005 at 8:11am
Ahh thank you chick x @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: LauraR
Date Posted: Oct 3, 2005 at 12:49pm

I wonder if we would get a discount if we did a hairboard order?  It looks like quite a few of us are planning on ordering.

Has anyone asked about a bulk discount?



Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 3, 2005 at 4:29pm
For what chick, the machines or the velcro strips lol x @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: CityGirl
Date Posted: Oct 3, 2005 at 5:00pm
count me in if it is for the machines.


Posted By: Scotchyroo
Date Posted: Oct 3, 2005 at 6:54pm

This is really tempting isn't it..... but $750 is so much money to not know if the machine will hold up is pretty hard.  I'm waiting to hear Metalgirls final opinion before I totally decide, because I have a tiny clientelle and know it won't pay for itself for a while.

   People in Northern MI don't pay $1500 for anything..... not even ski passes.



Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Oct 3, 2005 at 11:08pm

Originally Posted By: marie87 ``,$%$ !` " 2

Hi Marie!

It was kind of hard to take pics while maneuvering the machine at the same time.  By moving the strands and trying to coat it with a lot of glue leaves you with a cleaner, white tape.  Anyway, my machine did not advance so I had to cut my tape and iron on the remaining strands- oh well. 

machine not yet 'broken' {1st pic}

machine did not advance, I cut tape and ironed on to strands {2nd pic}.  It's still okay, but it takes forever to do

close up view of iron on strand {3rd pic}

Charlene

{I clean it everytime and make sure no glue is stuck anywhere.  What happened?  Stan?... any troubleshooting guides?... Thanks!}

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Posted By: amm
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 4:04am
[QUOTE=Scotchyroo]

This is really tempting isn't it..... but $750 is so much money to not know if the machine will hold up is pretty hard. $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.!( ),))%!,,%$<"b .4



Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 4:17am

hi there Char, did you squash your strands flat then, I rolled mine.  Looks like you've done a good job of saturating them though.  Did you use the machine manual and press it twice or just once.  I pressed all of mine twice but I did get a good lot of hair in there.

On the subject of the machine not moving on, there are two little white wheels at the bottom, wind them round, sometimes the glue gets stuck at the back and until you wheel them round you can't see it, that's where my glue build up was that stopped the machine from moving round, when I removed that it was fine.  I also cleaned the metal plate and made sure glue hadn't got under there periodically.  If you've done all this, change the tape cartridge and put a fresh one in and see if that works, if its still not working then there's something wrong with the machine and I'd get onto Anna x

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Posted By: LauraR
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 9:37am

I was talking about the machine, but I guess even if there was a discount~ it probably wouldn't be enough!

I agree with amm and scotchy for a diy it's spendy



Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 10:25am

Ahh thanks Amm.

I'm going to e-mail Darren and see what sort of discount he could give on a bulk order of say 5?  I'll keep ya posted x

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Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 10:28am
Originally Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo<4`( $ @ @` @$

Hey chick!

Myun just emailed me and he will send me a new one!  

I like to flatten my strands.  If I'm going to roll them, then might as well use the Great Lengths or the others.  I look really close to see if I have an even saturation and then call it a day.

But so far, my clients love this machine and the one client you see up there, had me cut the Mark Barrington plugs and use this.  The MB did not work for her- oh well.

I would recommend this to stylists who have a lot of fusion clients.  I like it better than glue guns, hot pots, and glue tips.  The inventor seems like an honest business person.  I don't doubt him.  I would doubt the distributors though.  I've been in this hair extensions business for over 17 years and I've ran into some 'give me your money and goodbye' deals.  I am glad to deal with the inventor directly.  His reponses are immediate.  His emails are very detailed.  He seems to be very willing to help even if it takes a lot of emails.  He makes me feel very comfortable.  That is what is very important for my 'hair extension speciality' business to grow.

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Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 10:42am

I love your flattened bonds Char, they look really clean.  I suppose that's the beauty of this machine, you can do it either way.  I don't think I'd be able to get them as neat and square at the top as you have, they are very neat.  I think I would struggle to keep the extension hair still enough to get them that square at the top once I'd snipped the top if you know what I mean.  That's great that you will be getting a new one.  Just one question for you, once you're machine has shut, it like makes a little noise until its fully shut doesn't it, how long in seconds roughly do you move it back and forth and wiggle lol your strands seem very saturated.  I think I'm a bit paranoid that I don't want to reck a tape cartridge x

That's so cool that she had you cut the MB hair, just shows how good this machine is.

I hardly have any fusion clients but I think its more undetectable around the sides of the head than shrinkies so I'm thinking of doing a mix with clients to be honest.  Get the bulk in with the shrinkies and then do this around the top and sides.  What my shrinkie clients love is when you run your hand down your hair you can't feel the shrinkie bump, its quite streamline.

When I contacted Mylun I was e-mailed back by his secretary Anna Lee who put me onto Darren at fast beauty.  She told me he was the man to deal with.  I have no qualms about doing business with Darren at all.  Everything he has said has been true to form and I have also been told, anything at all wrong with the machine then a new one will be sent.  He has kept in touch throughout the buying process, posting process, testing process.  He has phoned me today to get an update as to how I like the machine etc etc.  That to me is good business.  Bad business is to sell you the machine and not give a damn cos they've got your money x

 

 

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Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 10:58am
Hi there guys, I've just spoken to Darren at Fast Beauty.  How the situation lies is if you guys can get together 5 people who want this machine then he will do the machine at $570, then he will give you 7 cartridges for the price of 5 so that's roughly 7 heads of hair which will be $150 and don't forget the pen that you get with this for micro-extensions and balding.  Then he says the next time you order a box of 5 cartridges for $150 he will give you an extra cartridge free then too xxx That's $135 roughly discount per person xxxx @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 11:00am
I don't mind being the go-between too guys so if you have any concerns I can phone him for you x @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 1:34pm
[QUOTE=Amanda8Beechwoo]

I love your flattened bonds
Char, they look really clean. $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.%%%,!) % -!,%,bb ,.



Posted By: marie87
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 2:44pm
Hmm is that in dollars or pounds? I am ordering either way so might as well get a better deal. Daren quoted me $600. for machine and $175 for tape and $31 for shiping. Myun price is less but I would have to wait till the 20th for it to come in and then I'm not sure how much a bank transfer is. Amanda what is your time frame do you have 5 yet? Carleen would that metod be inplace of seemles wefts? And thanks for the photos!


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 3:40pm

Hi there Char, I'll ask Darren if you can chuck in your order for a box of cartridges with everyone else's, that was just if they buy a machine he was giving them 7 for the price of 5, so I'll see about that.  That's exactly what I'm doing that you're describing except I was maybe doing it for 4-5 seconds max and there was still some glue on the cartridge.  I'll try it for longer next time. 

Marie - that's in dollars.  Darren has the 5 machines in stock so whenever I've got 5 people together I'll pass on everybody's number so he can call you for your card details and honour the price.

So far

1  Marie

Anyone else? x

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Posted By: Koffee Brown
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 4:25pm
amanda, have u tried it in the back of your own head yet? !


Posted By: marie87
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 5:10pm
Oh I do hope we get 5!!! That's a much better price.


Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 7:05pm
I just purchased the EM from Darren at fastbeauty. I also bought the Braidmagic/Twistmagic..He gave me the Extendmagic for $570 (hair forum discount!) Can't wait to play with the new toys!!


Posted By: marie87
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 7:44pm
Did that include the tape too!!! I want hair forum discount!!!!!


Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2005 at 9:14pm

Marie, I don't think it will be in place of seamless- which gives a wider coverage in less amount of time.  I think this would be along the lines of glue fusions.  If anyone looking to offer their clients the 'invisible' look and go high up the hair w/o too much detection, than this is worth buying.

Yes chick, try counting longer to make sure all the glue is out of the tape.  And if Darren can't do it, that's fine.  Thanks so much!!!

Wow!  Elvira- you got a lot of toys!  I haven't played with the braid and twist yet.  It's still in the box.

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Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 5, 2005 at 3:34am
EVERYONE - I spoke to Darren last night.  He says he has decided to offer you all the machine at $570 if you say you are from the hair forum!!!! www.fastbeauty.co.uk xxx the box of cartridges is $150 plus 2 free xxxxxx @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 5, 2005 at 3:35am
I'm just on a take down at the moment koffee so I'll post pictures soon x @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: Koffee Brown
Date Posted: Oct 5, 2005 at 12:55pm
Thanks Amanda. Darren told me about the forum offer too. I'm waiting on your feedback on using it on your own head; since I would be my only client. Wink !


Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: Oct 5, 2005 at 1:44pm

Remember when I reported the problem of the tape breaking and now advancing?

I emailed the Lees a few times about that, and they did not offer to send me a new machine! 

Why are they responding to Charlene's problem, and not to mine.  We are having the same problem, so it obviously a defect in the machine.

I still don't know about this method.

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Posted By: marie87
Date Posted: Oct 5, 2005 at 3:40pm
Did you come out and say this needs to be replaced? I have a feeling that your being to nice and should be more demanding! Let them know that your findings are being passed a round (the world) and that your impression of this company and there product is important. Others like myself are relying on your findings befor deciding to invest in this, make sure they know that.


Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: Oct 5, 2005 at 3:54pm
When I spoke with Darren yesterday, he said that if the machines break, they will send them back to the manufacturer to be fixed at no cost. Don't be discouraged Metal, I am sure that they will accomodate you by either getting it fixed or sending you a new one. I'm still looking forward to getting mine. Kinks always need to be worked out in the beginning.


Posted By: sassyhair
Date Posted: Oct 5, 2005 at 4:33pm

I emailed Darren and he rang me three times left messages and I finally got back to him and he told me about the offer he has for members on here.

I am really interested in purchasing the extend magic, but I want to see it in action before I buy.  His colleague is going to be at the Professional Beauty show in Manchester on the 9th & 10th October. 

Amanda are you going to the show in Manchester?

If so you can register on the professional beauty show site for free tickets.



Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 5, 2005 at 4:35pm

Koffee - I've nearly taken this hair out but I ordered 18/22 mix from my supplier and its not the same colours as I usually have so I've had to send it back so its going to be another couple of days before I get "my" hair but I'm positive and looking forward to doing the back of my head, I think its going to be really easy for the simple fact, if I do it wrong I'll just take it back out and do it again lol.  So much better than the extentubes.  I really get my hair off when I can't get a tip in lol

Metal - this seems very strange about the machine having a defect, mine also didn't move on but it was just simple cleaning that needed doing.  I wonder why you and Char have had the same problem.  Why don't you see if Char can get in touch with them for you.  Are they just ignoring you or what exactly did they say?

When you bought your machine, did you get the disk saying that you had a year's warranty.  They have to keep to that so just tell them you want a new one cos its not working.

This machine really is worth percivering x

 

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Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: Oct 5, 2005 at 6:36pm

Thanks guys for the response.  I did ask the Lees to replace the machine, and I took a picture that showed them exactly how the tape was getting all twisted up on the metal gear post.  They tried to tell me that I had either put the tape in wrong, or that when I tried to remove the tape, that I pulled it out wrong. 

In any case, they did send me 2 new tape cartridges, but I don't want to be in the middle of an install and have them thing break on me again. 

My 2 clients on which I did a full head install like it, but they are getting some shedding.  I am experimenting with using stick hair with them machine, and also making some epoxy tipped hair and installing that. (the epoxy tip is the closest to MB tips that I can figure out)

I also have tried using the MB tips, but I don't know how well this adhesive will bind to the natural hair to the plastic tip on the MB hair.

I have to say, I like Charlene's flat bonds.  I think that is a way to cut down on shedding, because you can clearly see that every hair gets coated with adhesive.

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Posted By: marie87
Date Posted: Oct 5, 2005 at 7:15pm
Hey girl I still love the epoxy too! Have you talked to Peggy in Calif? Myun had me e-mail her then we spoke on the phone. She told me that she made her bonds flat because it seemed to work better. I guess this is why. I don't think pulling a tape wrong should break the darn thing come on how sensitive is this thing. Like you, I fear breaking it the middle of an install. That would just be the worse.


Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Oct 5, 2005 at 9:47pm

Hey Lisa- My machine is not advancing at all.  I let is cool off for 2 days now- still no movement.  I'll check on it again tomorrow.  Maybe they gave me the older version?  I don't know.  But yes, it did stop in the middle of a client- yikes! 

Myun sent me pics of Peggy's install too and they are flat and very nice.  Some are wide and some are thin.

Lisa, with the MB's I cut his plugs off.  I asked the client if she wants the plugs on top so at least we can salvage the hair in case if she changes her mind, but she hates the lumpy feel of it.

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Posted By: TanglesRC
Date Posted: Oct 5, 2005 at 10:53pm
have u gals tried your braiding machine yet? ), Ahg `dapd , .,` % $ ` $)-%,,, , ,"


Posted By: metalgirl
Date Posted: Oct 6, 2005 at 12:42pm
I did not get the braiding machine.  I guess that wasn't part of the deal for me. $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.%%%,-$)$!-!(b" /,


Posted By: elvira
Date Posted: Oct 8, 2005 at 6:37am
I had to pay for the Braidmagic separately. It comes with the Twistmagic in a package deal. (well not really a deal, it was expensive)


Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Oct 8, 2005 at 11:25am

When I first ordered the machine, he gave me one price which was around the asking.  That's when I told him, how much for all 3 machines and that's when he gave me a good discount.

The more I bought the more I saved- plain business sense.

Sand, how's the braiding machine coming along?

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Posted By: TanglesRC
Date Posted: Oct 9, 2005 at 12:14am

ok- i got the braid machine at a great price and i will actually be working with the person selling them and offering a good price on here for who ever is interested.

Char- so far so good, i tried it on my dolls head and it worked good, then i did some braids on my grandaughter and she loved them, i need to figure out how to add hair and braid them for more length. so far so good,

S

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Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Oct 17, 2005 at 2:53am

I did my own hair with the extendmagic yesterday, here are the pics, I pre-bonded the hair first as I thought it would be easier and then installed with the machine.  It was so easy and so quick it was unbelievable.  It only took me around 4 hours which is really quick for me as it takes me about 12 hours to do a full head extentubes and shrinkies.  The bonds feel really comfortable and lay really flat and they are so undetectable.  They feel really flexible which is weird as you expect the bonds to feel like fusion because they look like fusion.  I'll keep you posted x The hair was 18inch bohyme colours 613 and 14 which I blended on a blending board.  Excuse my roots lol xx

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Posted By: marie87
Date Posted: Oct 17, 2005 at 5:27am
I Love it!! Great job!!.


Posted By: greathairday
Date Posted: Oct 17, 2005 at 5:31am
looks beautiful!!! ) C` hate a % $ ` !(0 ` )>--


Posted By: gsmilie
Date Posted: Oct 17, 2005 at 10:04am

Amanda, you do such a beautiful job!!  I wish I lived in the UK, I would come and see you every 2-3 months!!!

How awkward was it to use this machine in the back of your head?

And, how the heck do you blend so da&n good?????

How many strands did you put in?

Awesome job!!!



Posted By: CyberMane
Date Posted: Oct 17, 2005 at 10:40am

WOW!!!  Simply amazing!!!  chick!  I effing LOVE it!!! 

I wish I knew how to do this on my own head.  All I can do are the seamless and tapes in my hair- lol.

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