Today Show Bride to Be
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Topic: Today Show Bride to Be
Posted By: Kramer Subject: Today Show Bride to Be Date Posted: Jul 22, 2005 at 7:46am
Sarah Raley of Maryland and her fiance were selected as the couple that will be married later this year live on NBC's Today Show. They became instant celebrities. Sarah has gorgeous waistlength hair. She won and I didn't even vote! Uh oh, I think they give their brides-to-be a makeover in the weeks leading up the wedding...
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Replies: 70 Posted By: Kramer
Date Posted: Jul 22, 2005 at 7:46am
Sarah Raley of Maryland and her fiance were selected as the couple that will be married later this year live on NBC's Today Show. They became instant celebrities. Sarah has gorgeous waistlength hair. She won and I didn't even vote! Uh oh, I think they give their brides-to-be a makeover in the weeks leading up the wedding... - Aa lape d , 4(`b $,`` /
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Posted By: HAWG
Date Posted: Jul 22, 2005 at 10:32am
I guess they're quasi-celebrities now and yes, we, the public, get to vote for everything in their wedding (gowns, tuxedos, table settings, invitations, and yes, most of all, her hairstyle). I can't wait to find out what will happen with her hair; not much can happen to his as he has a shaved head.
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Posted By: Joey99
Date Posted: Jul 22, 2005 at 11:39am
Luckily, they don't do an actual "make-over" for the couples, so there probably isn't any danger of her getting a major cut. The public gets to vote on her hairstyle for the wedding, though. Usually they show the bride-to-be at a salon where the hairstylist tries 3 or 4 different hairstyles for the wedding day...mostly updos, curls, once they gave a woman extensions. They've never drastically changed anyone's everyday style... ,! if a u`a %, 0`b $ (b ($ -)$$,% -$ !, br ).
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Posted By: Mike46019
Date Posted: Jul 22, 2005 at 12:48pm
Dodge a bullet? I hope so. LOL.!% Ah ``d ba ,%$ bp $($ b ).,%$)-!,) ! % 0b` %$
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Posted By: Rod
Date Posted: Jul 22, 2005 at 5:43pm
Didn't the wedding used to be the bride's day, not the voting American
public's day?
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Posted By: DaveDecker
Date Posted: Jul 22, 2005 at 7:02pm
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Yah... before America became hooked on the narcotic of "reality-based" TV programming.
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Posted By: Kramer
Date Posted: Jul 22, 2005 at 11:03pm
Posted By: Ben C
Date Posted: Jul 24, 2005 at 10:16pm
I ran part of the video from the wedding show and the girl that won it, Sarah, does have really long hair. I'd describe it as easily 'butt length'. It will be interesting to watch her as their wedding gets arranged.
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Posted By: Kramer
Date Posted: Sep 5, 2005 at 2:47pm
I feared this was coming: In the process of providing four hairstyles for Sarah Raley's wedding on The Today Show, she agreed to let the stylists cut a foot off her gorgeous mane. Needless to say, it's no longer down to her butt. When it was curled it was about to midback length. Naturally, the cut will be donated to the stockpile at the Locks of Life warehouse. You can't tell the length from these photos, but here are the choices for "us" to choose:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8544668/
I think the updo wins in a landslide.
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Posted By: loveshorthair
Date Posted: Sep 5, 2005 at 3:55pm
In my opinion, it is still very long. The cut was her decision - they said 10" on the show. She wanted to be sure everyone saw her dress (that is what she said on the show today). I liked the style that was down - she does have pretty hair - hate to have her tie it all up.
I know that not everyone will agree but I find very little difference in how butt length and mid-back length hair look.
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Posted By: Kramer
Date Posted: Sep 5, 2005 at 4:24pm
You're right. Not everyone will agree on whether it's a difference. But when I saw them slicing off that beautiful hair, ugh, it made a difference, believe me. You saw how long it was before the cut. Doesn't the "after" hair look like more than 10 inches was taken? - Aa lape d , 4(`b $,`` /
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Posted By: DaveDecker
Date Posted: Sep 5, 2005 at 4:44pm
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Hmm.... I truly wonder if she came up with the idea, or if it was
suggested (or more firmly "encouraged"). Somehow I don't believe
that cutting her hair was her decision. I think "acquiesced" is the more appropriate term for what happened.
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Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: Sep 6, 2005 at 7:01am
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Hmm.... I truly wonder if she came up with the idea, or if it was suggested (or more firmly "encouraged"). Somehow I don't believe that cutting her hair was her decision. I think "acquiesced" is the more appropriate term for what happened.
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With the many years of time and care for your long hair Dave, could someone "fimly encourage" you to cut 10 inches of your hair? I didn't think so and I doubt she did either, unless she wanted too.
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Posted By: JerkyFlea
Date Posted: Sep 6, 2005 at 11:24am
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Hmm.... I truly wonder if she came up with the idea, or if it was suggested (or more firmly "encouraged"). Somehow I don't believe that cutting her hair was her decision. I think "acquiesced" is the more appropriate term for what happened.
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I watched the show Dave, and it was her decision. The stylist suggested she may want to cut it just a bit to make it easier to do some of the styles, but that's what you'd expect them to do. When she did it, she wasn't on the verge of tears, she didn't have her face in her hands, she didn't lament the 10 inch braid as she held it in her hands. Back on the live show, when Natalie Morales commented breathlessly that she had cut her hair, the bride said, rather emphatically, that it was her decision, the stylists didn't pressure her to do it at all, she wasn't attached to her hair being that length, and that if she wore it down that she wanted everyone to see the back of her dress and she was worried they wouldn't with it as long as it was.
So, she didn't "acquiesce", she "decided". Not every woman who cuts or trims her long hair is the victim of arm-twisting or brain-washing by the vast short hair conspiracy. 
As usual,
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Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: Sep 6, 2005 at 12:13pm
you left out "right wing"....lol
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Posted By: Bob S
Date Posted: Sep 6, 2005 at 3:20pm
A cut may not be the end of the world, but were I the prospective groom, the last thing *I * would hope for is to see my fiance's hair whacked from hip-length to BS.
The decision may have been the bride's, but isn't it time that everyone knew that only about 1% of hair donations given to LoL actually adorn girls' heads? The ignorance of the truth *may* have been the main reason she chopped her spectacular hair. Bob 
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Posted By: Kramer
Date Posted: Sep 6, 2005 at 4:27pm
As a follow-up to all this...
1) One of the reasons I voted for Sarah and what's-his-name is because she had the prettiest -- and longest -- hair. She's a doll.
2) Videotape will show that when they met, Sarah had somewhat shorter hair and her fiance had hair. Now he shaves what he has. (The video may follow a commercial from the Red Cross.)
http://video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?f=00&g=49f42736-b8f9-417 a-93c2-851ce0035abc&t=m5&p=Source_Today%20Show
3) As soon as they mentioned that viewers would be able to vote on a hairstyle, I cringed that the audience would have a say on whether Sarah would cut her hair. I never thought the stylist would suggest it and she would go along with it.
4) Bob, I agree with everything you said. But as I recall, the fiance had a chance to talk her out of it and instead sat there reading his magazine.
5) Natalie Morales' hair looked spectacular that morning (Monday). She is doing a great job when called upon and is looking the part. I wish they'd use her more and Alexis Glick less.
6) Katie Couric's hair can't grow fast enough for me. - Aa lape d , 4(`b $,`` /
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Posted By: arch94
Date Posted: Sep 6, 2005 at 5:22pm
Flea Rules!!!
On a related note, here's hopong that Ann Curry visits that same stylist...stat!
My two cents.
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Posted By: DaveDecker
Date Posted: Sep 6, 2005 at 5:40pm
Hal and JF... my take on the "decision" is that if she had wanted to
cut her hair she would have brought up the issue. But as you said
JF, "The stylist suggested she may want to cut it just a bit to make it
easier to do some of the styles, but that's what you'd expect them to
do."
What this tells me is that she was easy to persuade. And possibly
felt some pressure (even if very gentle, like a virtual nudge) to
approve the stylist's suggestion.
I'd bet $ that if the stylist hadn't said a word about cutting her hair, she would have been perfectly happy.
So the depth of her conviction to keep what she had wasn't
strong. It doesn't mean she didn't acquiesce. And please
tell me why you hold so dearly the notion that I believe these events
are the results of brain-washing or a conspiracy.
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: Sep 6, 2005 at 6:03pm
The fact is that every time you get a girl with that long of hair in a salon you know that the stylist is just dying to slash their scissors into the girl's hair, its sad to see that Sara's lovely long hair was basically wasted.
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Posted By: Mike46019
Date Posted: Sep 6, 2005 at 8:04pm
Well it could have be more that got chopped. If she wanted to show off the dress and they by the way I saw it I have no sound. Looks like she wanted the cut. So I have no trouble with that. Not like one of those ambush shows.!% Ah ``d ba ,%$ bp $($ b ).,%$)-!,) ! % 0b` %$
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Posted By: JerkyFlea
Date Posted: Sep 6, 2005 at 8:51pm
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Hey Dave,
I was said rather tongue-in-cheek, but the impetus of the statement is the predictable response that anytime any long haired woman gets her hair cut on any show there is never the admission of even the remote possibility that she may have actually wanted to do it. It's always because they were pressured or coerced or guilted into it.
Basically, the fact I'm wearing a shirt that I've been wearing for a while, doesn't necessarily mean I'm that attached to it or wouldn't prefer a new shirt if I was given the chance for one. I just may not have had the reason or opportunity to get a new one yet. 
And Dave, you know I'm not trying to pick a fight, right? Not my style. 
And Bob S., don't drag the LoL argument into this. There's never going to be an agreement on that on the board so I'd humbly suggest we make it an off-limits topic. Fair enough?
As usual,
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Posted By: lovebobs
Date Posted: Sep 6, 2005 at 10:42pm
long straight hair like that is extremely sexy WHY cut off 10.5 inches?????
its either have long gorgeous hair or short sexy hair there is no in between that is just blahhhhhh
she should have kept it long there are very few girls around with LONG hair that is kept nice all you really see is long rat tails THIS IS A SHAME!!!! !,% Sidh @DPD ,br /2 @@ "%$ $- ,) ,%,$``
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Posted By: Kramer
Date Posted: Sep 7, 2005 at 12:12am
Posted By: Mike46019
Date Posted: Sep 7, 2005 at 6:42am
I don't know I don't have sound. So I'm out of this also.
I'm not going take sides on LOL. I just used the BBB info to tell people that are going to or thinking about given it to them they could get something better if the do Ebay or photo shoot. Heck you have so many sites out there looking for models or anyone who wants to cut they hair for money. If they want to use what they got from these sites and give that money to cause they are better off.!% Ah ``d ba ,%$ bp $($ b ).,%$)-!,) ! % 0b` %$
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Posted By: JerkyFlea
Date Posted: Sep 7, 2005 at 8:12am
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KramerGord, my man, let's skip ahead a bit and this is an honest question: She cuts 10.5 inches of hair. She has it in a braid. Both are done deals. What should she do with it? Throw it away? Auction it on eBay? Donate it to LoL? Donate it to WigsForKids? Hang it from her rear view mirror? What?
As for pressure to cut/donate at all, I'm sure the conversation went something like, "If we take a 6-8 inches off, the styles would work better. But if you cut 10 inches, you could donate it to Locks of Love". Which is, as I said before, a suggestion by the stylist. Not born of hatred of long hair or a devious plan to allow her to start chopping away, but a suggestion. One that could be ignored.
However, my point to Dave, and to you is that not every woman with super long hair is intimately attached to every inch of it, so a) cutting wasn't that big of a deal to her and b) cutting a little more wasn't that big of a deal to her. My frustration in these conversations is that the folks that prefer long hair on the board seem to project their intense love of and need to protect every inch of all the long flowing locks they see onto anyone with long hair. Whether that person has that deep attachment or not.
What further baffles me is some of the reactions even within the long hair community itself. We've all see the posts where someone will lament that they wanted 1 inch cut off and ended up losing 4 instead. Amongst the offerings of sympathy and support, there is always the one poster that calls for the stylist to be drawn and quartered. And not in jest either. I'm not belittling the loss of six months worth of growth, but the violence and deep hatred those type of posts reveal bothers me.
And don't think I'm picking on that group especially, as I give crap to everyone and get equally tired of reading the posts by folks whose opinion I can predict before they type a word. Not saying that should dissuade anyone from posting; just pointing out (as I have before) that the most enjoyable threads to me are the ones where someone offers some insight or opinion that I may not have expected.
Bailing out of this thread...except to respond to Dave if he responds to me,
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: Sep 7, 2005 at 3:44pm
jerky flea the thing is that if a person has hair down to their butt that usually always means that the person likes their hair. And with Sara's hair it was in such good condition if she wasn't attached to her hair I would think that she wouldn't even bother to make her hair look nice. If she thought of her hair like that shirt you said earlier she surely would have got it cut a lot earlier than let it get so long.
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Posted By: Carmichael
Date Posted: Sep 7, 2005 at 4:01pm
Notice that almost every single post here was perfectly predictable
from Kramer to DD to
BOB, everyone's with the notable exception of Jerky Flea's. Thank you
Flea for
keeping this a sane place for open minded people looking for common
ground to visit once in
a while. As for the LOL comments your right about that too, it's
bordered on liable as of late and if I were the sites owner that would
be enough for me to make it a closed topic.
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Posted By: fatmoogas
Date Posted: Sep 7, 2005 at 4:21pm
It's only hair. (!% Qa da d`` ) $ br
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Posted By: DaveDecker
Date Posted: Sep 7, 2005 at 4:59pm
Hi Carmichael,
Thank you for concluding that I'm both insane and closed-minded.
I wouldn't want to disappoint you. I should also apologize for
being predictable. Thank goodness that JF provides you with at
least some incentive to continue reading the board.
Hi JF,
Interesting shirt analogy. On one level, it makes sense. On
another, it doesn't. So what if the deal to try on this new shirt
was that you had to give up the old shirt, and continue wearing the new
shirt every day (presumably laundered daily ),
but after a day or a week or whatever you decided that you really
didn't like this shirt, that you preferred the previous shirt.
But wait, the deal was that you couldn't have that shirt back (let's
say, for 2 years). Now how do you feel about the deal? Like
it was a rather cr@ppy deal.
You wear your hair a certain way. I might guess that you like to
keep it about the same length year after year (not that there's
anything wrong with that. The same goes for those who have any
particular length of hair, including long). So to maintain that
length, you make a mental note (or don't, since it's almost
instinctive) to get a trim of your short hairstyle every 6 weeks.
So also might a woman whose hair is waist-length. 'Cause she
wants to keep it at that length.
My point is that people can decide well enough on their own what length
they want their hair to be. People don't need suggestions.
I'm not saying they don't happen; rather, that they don't need to be
honored.
BTW JF, I like your style of "arguing" better than that of many people, Hal. 
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Posted By: loveshorthair
Date Posted: Sep 7, 2005 at 6:05pm
Well, I watched the video (didn't see it earlier). Whether the stylist made a suggestion or not (isn't that what stylist do - I know they do with my wife). If you watch the video, she definately did not seem in the least upset she lost 10.5". I was waiting for bare knuckle grip on the chair or tears or fleeing....the way some of you made it sound. I always ask my wife (she cuts my hair) what style she likes, how she thinks I should wear it....but I'm sure this won't satisfy many of you...let's try it another way. What if the girl had real short hair and the stylist wanted to use massive extensions. How many of you would be "complaining" about the abusive power of the stylist?
Just a thought...why can't we be friends, why can't we be friends....
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Posted By: fatmoogas
Date Posted: Sep 7, 2005 at 6:11pm
Anyone who agrees to appear on this type of show, is usually more than ready to sacrifice anything for their 15 minutes of fame. Wouldn't be very good TV if the professionals just said, "think you look great, and there's no need to change a thing!"(!% Qa da d`` ) $ br
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: Sep 7, 2005 at 6:15pm
Hey Dave don't you think that if she wanted her hair short she would have worn it short but she had it long so they should have let her keep her long hair
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Posted By: Lester
Date Posted: Sep 7, 2005 at 8:49pm
Are there any pictures of this woman before she got the haircut? The videos are not coming through for me. Thanks
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Posted By: Hal
Date Posted: Sep 8, 2005 at 7:12am
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If I had feeling, that my have hurt them...lol
Almost every woman I know would give up her old shirt for a new one... that's why the mall (and hair salons) are full of them shopping for new ones! However, to your point, there are a few around that wear the same old shirt day after day after day.
If one of your buddies should up at a business function wearing a leisure suit, would you let him know, fashion wise, he had missed the boat? Would you let him look bad rather than speak up? Would be rude if you did? Would you be a true friend if you did not?
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Posted By: JerkyFlea
Date Posted: Sep 8, 2005 at 11:23am
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Yes, but that also assumes that if I didn't like the new shirt that there is no other new shirt that I would like and the only way I'll be happy is to get my old shirt back. And it's not like I can't get it back, it will just take a while. The question then becomes that if the only way I can ever try a new shirt is to get rid of the old one, is it worth denying myself those possibilities to retain my old comfortable shirt? Some would say yes, some would say no, and still others would say this shirt analogy has gotten entirely out of control. 
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Actually I go every 3-4 weeks and generally because it starts to look bad. But I get your point. 
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And this is where we diverge. I disagree with "people don't need suggestions" because that implies that any suggestion is an intrusion on their personal self-image and/or a violation of their rights. If you and I were working a job where we were repairing the gearing on a conveyor belt system, I may suggest that you cut or put up your hair to keep it from potentially catching in the gears and getting ripped from your head or your head ripped from the rest of you. Is that a suggestion you don't need?
If that's too obvious, then let's say that if we were hanging out and I mentioned that, given your features and hair texture, you'd have a cool "rock god" look going if you cut your hair to between your shoulders and mid-back and added some layering. Just my opinion, throwing it out there, you can take it or leave it. Doesn't make me think any more or less of you for taking or not taking my suggestion. As you said, it's up to you to choose to actually do something based on it.
Now, if I berated you about it daily, that would be different...
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