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Topic: Hair dye makes better hair quality?
Posted By: SumoSamurai
Subject: Hair dye makes better hair quality?
Date Posted: Apr 19, 2005 at 6:40pm

I don't know but it seems to me that dying your hair would make the quality of your hair better? My mom has nice dyed hair that feels nice.

What type of oil do you suppose to use to oil your hair? veggie oil?

And when I apply conditioner to my hair, how deep is "just apply to the ends" like I read in articles?

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Replies: 34
Posted By: SumoSamurai
Date Posted: Apr 19, 2005 at 6:40pm

I don't know but it seems to me that dying your hair would make the quality of your hair better? My mom has nice dyed hair that feels nice.

What type of oil do you suppose to use to oil your hair? veggie oil?

And when I apply conditioner to my hair, how deep is "just apply to the ends" like I read in articles?

SumoSamurai38461.7988078704


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Apr 20, 2005 at 2:51am

Often, dyed hair feels nice because it's softer and has less bonds. Of course, this also means the hair is slightly weaker and with higher risk for breakage.

Good oils: jojoba, macadamia, coconut, sweet almond... etc.. Make sure they're health product quality, meaning not cooking oil. Don't use cooking oil because it is processed for cooking at high temperatures (higher acid content) Health food stores are great places to find appropriate oils for hair.

Conditioning "your ends only" means not putting conditioner on or near the scalp. This is because (for most people) the scalp produces enough oil to condition that hair already. So if it's conditioned even more, then the scalp hair can become limp or greasy.

(Of course, this "ends only" thing excludes me. As I now use conditioner only and no shampoo)

HTH

Anais

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Posted By: SumoSamurai
Date Posted: Apr 20, 2005 at 3:37pm
So how exactly can you not get conditioner in your scalp?


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Apr 20, 2005 at 4:57pm

Good point. If you hair is short, then it's very difficult to not get conditioner on the scalp. Usually the rule is "from the ears down" if you have hair that is past ear level. but look who's talking, it's ms. waist length, who can dunk her length in conditioner and it doesn't touch her scalp at all.... I'm such a wench.

Actually though, as long as you use a conditioner that has no silicone ingredients*, then it can usually go on the scalp with no problems ("with no problems" means it won't make the scalp break out, but it could still make people's hair oily)

*silicone ingredients- see sticky thread in the Hair Products sub-board. 

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Posted By: SumoSamurai
Date Posted: Apr 20, 2005 at 11:08pm

My hair is very similar to the stick guy in my sig, but the bangs reach to the end of my nose without stretching it. My ears are covered.

So if I leave my hair just lay down without brushing my hair back, should I just rub the conditioner flat down on my hair or stick my fingers inbetween and not too far down? Or I can flip my head upside down and do it?

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Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Apr 21, 2005 at 12:47am

Flipping your head upside down works too. Really, it depends on what works for you. As long as you're not deliberately massaging a silicone conditioner into your scalp. Try different methods if you like.

If you haven't had any itching/flaking/breakouts/excess oil on the scalp, with your particular conditioner, then stick with what you've got.

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Posted By: SumoSamurai
Date Posted: Apr 21, 2005 at 6:59pm
I'm going to dye my hair white(probably not too white, maybe a little lighter than creamy white) and have really light silver highlights. cool huh? =)            


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Apr 21, 2005 at 11:59pm

Hehe, just remember to be gentle and condition your hair well after you dye it.

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Posted By: goddess_mels
Date Posted: Apr 22, 2005 at 5:19pm
Definitely be careful because lightening hair to that extent (bleaching) is not going to have the same effect as darkening it (which tends to leave a coating, making the hair appear temporarily thicker). !,!


Posted By: SumoSamurai
Date Posted: Apr 22, 2005 at 6:23pm

What do you mean why lightening and darkening?

All this time I've seen and heard the word bleach so many times, what does it mean? I don't want to google.

hey anais, cant you girls just pee the blood out when you're having a period? Why need a "mooncup"?

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Posted By: eKatherine
Date Posted: Apr 22, 2005 at 9:21pm
Go study biology, SS.


Posted By: SumoSamurai
Date Posted: Apr 22, 2005 at 11:10pm
Yea, but can you tell me the answer?


Posted By: eKatherine
Date Posted: Apr 22, 2005 at 11:16pm
Yes.


Posted By: goddess_mels
Date Posted: Apr 23, 2005 at 12:40am

When you lighten your hair, normally what is used is peroxide, in different amounts depending upon how light you want to go.

All hair coloring (light or dark) usually utilizes some form of "lifting" of your own color. But for darker colors, not as much lifting (hence, not as much peroxide) is required. Peroxide can be very damaging, especially if you use a lot at once, and/or if you use it over and over again. It breaks the bonds of the hair and makes it weak and fragile.

Some women lighten their hair with no problem at all, but unfortunately, I'm not one of them! Sigh. (I no longer color my hair, though.) But if you want to go "white", you're probably going to need A LOT of lightening/bleaching. You will need to remove virtually all color from your hair...otherwise you'll wind up with pink or orange hair.

 

 

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Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Apr 23, 2005 at 2:06pm

"hey anais, cant you girls just pee the blood out when you're having a period? Why need a "mooncup"?"

Because it doesn't come out that tube. ETA: I don't want to tell you more than your parents allow you to know at this point, you're only 14 right? but let's just say the Mooncup is a good substitute for the disposable menstrual products they sell in drugstores.

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Posted By: SumoSamurai
Date Posted: Apr 23, 2005 at 3:16pm

lmao, I started sex ed when I was in 6th grade. I'm 15 now, and I've had health/sex ed every year since 6th grade. Even a 14 year old deserves to know the answer. I know how almost everything looks like. My school give out free condoms. My health ed teacher was hard this year. When you take sex ed you need parent approval, and my parents approve. The first time I ever touched a condom was in 8th grade. Last year my health ed teacher showed us how to put a male and female condom on using models. Okok whatever, could you just tell me? I want to know if the stuff comes out by itself or you have to pee it out, or you need to suck it out with that mooncup?

I just want to learn. =(

Ok, after looking up bleach in the dictionary, I now have a better understanding of what the hell you're talking about godess. So what you're saying is that I need to remove my natural hair color, and then dye it white(lighten?) so it won't turn into another color? And, when you say lightening your hair, it means you're bleaching your hair? Or dying your hair a similar hair color of what you have now but lighter?

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Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Apr 23, 2005 at 4:56pm
You're very open-minded. and I was not aware of how early people will have students learn reproductive health these days. PM'ing you. $$ )'```ara $).,`` %*,`r !,,!-- ,,)-% ! " $4


Posted By: SumoSamurai
Date Posted: Apr 23, 2005 at 5:32pm

I see..thanks.

And uh godess, I have a question for you on top if you didnt notice.



Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Apr 23, 2005 at 6:18pm

Yes.. Remove your natural hair color by using a bleaching agent. But don't bleach again. Some people bleach and bleach until their hair is white. This will damage hair.

Instead, bleach ONCE, then use a toner to cancel out the remaining yellowish-ness. Toner is usually violet, and it cancels out yellow because it's opposite on the color wheel.

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Posted By: SumoSamurai
Date Posted: Apr 23, 2005 at 6:24pm
So I really actually don't dye my hair? And would my hair quality be all dry?SumoSamurai38465.7678356481


Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Apr 23, 2005 at 7:37pm

No, because you want white hair, and you're an artist so you know white isn't actually a color.

Dye = adding a color different than your natural color

You would only bleach, then tone.

Your hair is short so it won't be that dry, as long as you condition your hair every time you shampoo. Long hair takes more damage from chemicals than short hair does.

And besides, dye makes your hair drier anyway. If you skip the dye and just use a toner, then you're saving yourself one step of damage.

Anais

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Posted By: SumoSamurai
Date Posted: Apr 23, 2005 at 9:31pm

Oh, I thought they have white dyes.



Posted By: goddess_mels
Date Posted: Apr 24, 2005 at 12:27am

Hi, SS. Yes...bleaching can make your hair very dry! Especially if you have far to go and need a lot of bleach (if your hair is dark). If you really want your hair all the way white, it will almost certainly be dry. I guess it's a trade-off. You could try it if you really want white hair...you just have to be ready for the dryness.

What color is your hair now?

!,!


Posted By: SumoSamurai
Date Posted: Apr 24, 2005 at 1:20am

You said my hair is short, this considered short? And godess, that's my hair color, black. By the way, I'm waiting for my bangs to reach my chin, and the side hair 2-3 inches longer. The side hair was shortened last time I went to a salon. too bad. When I say side hair, I mean the hair in the front of my ears. I don't want the hair covering my ears to be too long.

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Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Apr 24, 2005 at 1:09pm
Short to me, anyway. but short and long are relative terms. $$ )'```ara $).,`` %*,`r !,,!-- ,,)-% ! " $4


Posted By: SumoSamurai
Date Posted: Apr 24, 2005 at 11:53pm

Okay.

So..my hair is black. Does that mean it needs more bleach?



Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Apr 25, 2005 at 12:03am

Not necessarily "more", but maybe more times.

More bleaching = more damage.

but more bleaching = whiter hair.

Your choice. It's a risk you'd have to take if you want white hair.

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Posted By: Susan W
Date Posted: Apr 25, 2005 at 6:46am
I feel the need to say here, don't use bleach like your mother keeps in the bathroom, this bleach is not for hair.  I would suggest going to a salon to get it done by a pro.


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Posted By: SumoSamurai
Date Posted: Apr 25, 2005 at 6:23pm

I think that's obvious...I already have salon that I usually go to.

Well, I don't really want to take a big risk of having dry looking hair, because then I would have dry hair for a long time till it grows out and gets trimmed. Man, I never knew it was such a big deal just to change the color of your hair.



Posted By: SamuraiJoe
Date Posted: Apr 27, 2005 at 12:00am
Ill just see what my hairdresser have to say when I go to change color.


Posted By: Tainted
Date Posted: Apr 27, 2005 at 1:20pm

Well, I really wouldn't recommend you bleaching your hair white.  Bleaching your hair completely destroys the internal makeup of your hair and if you do not have strong and healthy hair to begin with it could even wind up burning your hair off.  I wouldn't risk it SS.  If you look at these celebrities with their bleached white hair you have to realize that most, if not ALL of them are wearing hair extensions because the damage from the constant bleaching makes it impossible to grow your hair out any longer than the top of your shoulders....the hair just keeps breaking.

Seriously think this out before you do it.

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Posted By: robots
Date Posted: Apr 27, 2005 at 6:27pm

my mom's hair dresser bleached her hair three time in a row to get the black out, and it went from jet black to light brown. her hairs really damaged and dry and frizzy. but when she straightens it (with a flat iron), it looks all soft and shiny. If you're going to bleach your hair, i recommend you to use a really good hair straightener to keep your hair from looking dry.



Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Apr 27, 2005 at 6:32pm

The unregistered guest actually has hair about chin-length. Less damage is done to short hair. I personally will remain heat-free chemical-free as I always have.

Anais

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Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Apr 27, 2005 at 9:04pm

Hm... I don't know if it's possible to have a "white dye", per se. It's difficult to make a product that will deposit a white pigment evenly on the hair strand. I hope you are able to decide on what to do about the bleach.

SamuraiHero, have you tried that temporary streak stuff? Or maybe the kind that comes in a spray can? I used to see middle school kids use that stuff all the time. It comes in all sorts of colors, perhaps even white.  

Anais

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Posted By: Kuroneko
Date Posted: Apr 30, 2005 at 3:42am

White hair looks cool, but causes too much damage.  Wigs are easier ^_^ .  Just be careful with white wigs, because the ones labelled shade 60 are actually the silvery-white of old lady hair.  That's not what I'm looking for. . . have to find a true white instead. . .

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