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Topic: another place selling heat clamps
Posted By: leia1979
Subject: another place selling heat clamps
Date Posted: Mar 18, 2005 at 5:51pm

I've been searching for a cheap fusion wand/heat clamp.  I came across another wholesaler, this one in Shandong Province, China.  I don't think we've seen this company before.  Their iron also looks like the Revlon one that Doc sells. Here's what I found:

http://qianfinehair.en.alibaba.com/product/50052649/50240093 /Fusion_Clamp/Fusion_Clamps.html

The company's website is http://www.qianfinehair.com

I'll ask what their prices are...although if that other place that only has eight left will sell at a good price, it'd be easier to get eight buyers instead of ten.




Replies: 78
Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 18, 2005 at 5:51pm

I've been searching for a cheap fusion wand/heat clamp.  I came across another wholesaler, this one in Shandong Province, China.  I don't think we've seen this company before.  Their iron also looks like the Revlon one that Doc sells. Here's what I found:

http://qianfinehair.en.alibaba.com/product/50052649/50240093 /Fusion_Clamp/Fusion_Clamps.html

The company's website is http://www.qianfinehair.com

I'll ask what their prices are...although if that other place that only has eight left will sell at a good price, it'd be easier to get eight buyers instead of ten.



Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 18, 2005 at 8:42pm
Hey Leia~ I did contact this company about 3 weeks ago. For
some reason I though the companies were connected as I had
their site in with my sensual folder. I guess I must have put them
together as I was sending out e-mail's to them both looking for
this particular iron. I heard back from a guy called Paul Yip
(Revolution) , that connected me with Irene from Sensual.
I also e-mailed Qianfine back a few days ago about their
human hair .......have not heard from them yet.

I don't think this company got back to me about the irons. I
checked the mail I saved and did not see a response, now that I
really searched for it. I have e-mailed so many companies
lately on their stock........I can't keep track!!

Kewl, let's see what they have for prices.......minimum is 10
irons for this company. I e-mailed them tonight again on the
irons, so we can see if we get the same price from them.

Irene from sensual won't budge on the $98 shipping for 8 irons.
I will post her response on the Sensual thread.

I agree it still works out cheaper, but if we can get the same
deal from this company with less shipping, then it's worth
looking into.

keep us posted if they reply Leia Save~A~Stray38429.8652199074


Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 19, 2005 at 11:49am
Okay, here's what Mr. Chen from Quian Fine Hair said:

irons $48 each
T/T fee $30-$50
shipping $20 for four irons

(That last part has me confused...like maybe we don't have to buy ten?  I'll email him back.)

That doesn't sound too bad, though.


Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 19, 2005 at 7:32pm
Another update from Mr. Chen:

$48 per iron
T/T fee approx $30
shipping $50

The minimum is 10 irons, unless we want to buy other stuff from them.  (So feel free to look around).

Otherwise, if we can get ten interested people, it would be $56-$58 per person, plus shipping within the US (probably another $5 or so).  That means for between $61 and $64, we can get fusion wands.  Anyone interested?

So, it turns out this is a better deal than Sensual, but we'll need two more people.  Can we get that many people who want some (or perhaps have the ability to resell some as well)?
leia197938430.8207060185


Posted By: eKatherine
Date Posted: Mar 19, 2005 at 8:53pm
I would be willing to buy an iron at that price.


Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 19, 2005 at 9:09pm
Great, I think that brings us up to three (because I'm assuming since SAS has been looking into this that she's interested).

If we can come close (like 7 interested parties), then I'll go see if I can recruit a few more from Quinn's board.


Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: Mar 19, 2005 at 9:45pm
Hey Im in with you girls on an iron so long as its a dual sided heat with temperature control. I havent been on the board much the past few days but I still check in and check my messages. So count me in on what ever everyone decides. $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .64b" !( %($%,!)$!!!!8br 0


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 19, 2005 at 11:15pm
Leia~ If his Iron is the exact same as doc's iron and cheaper
than Sensual then I'm in. Save~A~Stray38430.97


Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 19, 2005 at 11:35pm
I don't know how to tell if it's the exact same as Doc's, although it sure looks exactly the same in the picture.  I asked to double check that this is a dual-sided adjustable temp iron, and Mr. Chen has affirmed that it is.


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 19, 2005 at 11:42pm
Thanks Hun,.....if he confirmed the dual sided and adjustable
temp then it is probably the Doc iron. That's good enough for
me!!
I sent one more e-mail to Sensual telling them this competitors
prices and can they beat it. I will let you know what they say.
No pressure!! HeeHee




Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 19, 2005 at 11:57pm
You are a cunning businesswoman!  Frankly, it would be a bit easier if we only have to come up with eight buyers.  Although, looking at Ebay, it would be quite possible to recoup the cost of having to buy an extra. (There's a single-temperature one that's at $52 with well over 3 days left, and it started at $1.)


Posted By: Syren123
Date Posted: Mar 20, 2005 at 1:53am
From the pictures posted, the one on the Sensual site is for sure exactly the same as the Doc's wand - down to the RK on the side hinge thingy. It's hard to tell if it's the same on Quianfine as the picture is small. But if you girls are satisfied that they are the same wand, then that's the one you're after.


Posted By: Meriam
Date Posted: Mar 20, 2005 at 1:59am
Hello every one, I am fairly new to the forum. I actually have been reading for a while but never  posted. I would like to get in on the purchase of a fusion iron also. I am in California.


Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 20, 2005 at 3:11pm
Welcome, Meriam!  That gets us halfway there.  Just check back here for any updates.


Posted By: octmac
Date Posted: Mar 20, 2005 at 9:49pm

I started a new thread, as I did not want to get lost in this one. Please count me in.

Octavia

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Posted By: MERGUTHRIE
Date Posted: Mar 20, 2005 at 9:56pm
damn guys, i bought mine last week, it will be here tues( ,- A `lapt`a !!2


Posted By: zapevaj
Date Posted: Mar 20, 2005 at 10:02pm
Ooh, I want one. Will this happen soon? I can't splash out for one for another few weeks or so, but definitely want to get one.

-Rae
$- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.%%%,(!) !,!(%,`" %4


Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 21, 2005 at 2:53pm

Don't worry, Rae. I'm sure we can work something out.

The list so far:

Leia
SAS
Sherrie
Katherine
Meriam
Octavia
Rae

That makes seven.  Any word from the Sensual people about our comparison shopping?



Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 22, 2005 at 1:03am
Leia~ On an e-mail last week Sensual talked about absorbing
the wire charge. So I e-mailed her back to confirm this. This
was her response


Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 22, 2005 at 2:13pm

I will email Mr. Chen when I get home. 

Also, I've never had PayPal charge me a fee, since I have a personal account. There is a $500 limit, so if one or two people paid by check, I think we'd avoid Paypal fees.  So right now, we need three more people; also I need a distribution volunteer because my dad would probably kill me if he knew what we were up to (not a hair-experimentation-friendly person).

leia197938433.5937615741


Posted By: SamUK
Date Posted: Mar 22, 2005 at 5:10pm
Just a thought - with the fees etc. included, you're only saving about
$15 buying from this place rather than from Doc or HairCandy.
Given the trouble that you seem to be having thus far, what would
happen if one or more of the irons was faulty? Or if there were
problems with the shipping? Customer care doesn't seem to be of
highest importance here, and personally, I'd rather spend the extra
$15 buying from a reputable source.

Sorry if I'm pissing on your chips here, but I'd hate to see anyone
lose money like this. Not that I'm saying you definitely would, but it's
worth considering.


Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: Mar 22, 2005 at 5:16pm
I almost wonder if Doc would be willing to offer a discount for a mass order of, say, 10 irons? Does she do that sort of thing? :) $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.%%%, %!%$)!$$(bp !&


Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 22, 2005 at 7:24pm
Actually, Sam, we're saving about $40 each this way.  An iron from Doc plus shipping is about $108.  We're looking at $65 each.  If it were only $15 difference, I'd buy from Doc (or Kristin...but I want temp control, hun).  I will ask Doc if a bulk order discount is possible.

I can't help it...I'm incapable of buying anything full-price.

UPDATE: the irons are fully US-compatible (plug, voltage, etc.)
leia197938433.8733796296


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 12:46am
Hey Leia~ Thanks for the update. Do you know the exact wire
charge by any chance?

The paypal fee I was taling about is.......if anyone pays through
paypal to the person doing the actual order and shipping, they
will get charged for receiving the money. That's why I included
a 2.9% paypal fee. If everyone pays with checks, then no fee as
you said.

I just accepted a paypal fee from the UK, and paypal charged
me 4.279% to get the money!! I was like what the heck!!
I thought the highest fee they could charge was 2.9%....???

So do you get charged more for accepting an overseas
payment?? I rarely use paypal, so was just wondering......

Leia~ I have had no response from Mr Chen at all. Do you want
to do this ASAP or are you girls in no hurry here? Save~A~Stray38434.0326273148


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 4:01am
Hey there SAS, pm me the amount and I'll reimburse you chick, I wasn't aware of that either xxxxxx I've just been charged $30.00 dollars customs this end to get the hair, had a post office card waiting for me on my mat last night saying I had to go to the post office and pay it before they would let me have your package - bummer! xxx @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 4:35am
Originally Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo#t` (%0@ $d` @`

That sucks. Can someone explain this customs fee thing to me? Do they just seize packages at random? Is this a specific problem in the U.K. and some other countries? Sorry if I'm being a little clueless here, but I've never, ever had this happen in the U.S. :)
$- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.%%%, %!%$)!$$(bp !&


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 4:52am

Hi there Jenny, basically if someone sends a package to the UK, the person receiving it in the UK has to pay customs on the item if it is goods to the value of $30.00 or over or if it is a gift then to the value of $65.00 or over.  I personally think its disgusting having to pay this so when I purchase stuff from the USA for example when I get my hair from Ebonyline, I've signed a disclaimer with them so I just require them to provide proof of posting and that I don't require any insurance because if they send something out to me and I require insurance, then they have to put the amount to be insured on the front of the package, this is what customs look at and this is what you get charged for, then I don't have to pay customs because there is no value on the front of the box to be insured.  xx

I totally forgot to tell Kristen and SAS when they were sending me the hair and clips so I've had to pay customs on both xx

Amanda8Beechwoo38434.2035648148 @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: Jenny_RR
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 5:00am
Ah...thanks for breaking it down for me.

So you have to waive your right to insurance to avoid the fee? Again, that really sucks--you basically have no choice but to give up your own protections. I could see if it was an item that was many thousands of dollars or something, but having to pay $30 on, say, a $50 order is insane. Grrr.....  $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.%%%, %!%$)!$$(bp !&


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 5:03am
OMG!! OMG,,,,,,,are you kiddin' me!! I can't believe this!!

Amanda, Hun you owe me nothing girl!! No way!!

I deliberately ticked "gift" with card & letter.....so you would not
have a customs issue!! That is CRAZY!!!
I can't believe they did this!! OMG!! I'm so mad!!

If you tick merchandise.....like most companies do, then
customs are likely to put a charge on it.

I sent one of my bridesmaids her dress to have her fit it in
Scotland before she came out to my wedding in the States. I
paid $500 for her dress then customs put a 117 pound charge
on it at her end, I ticked no boxes on the ticket, and they said
because I had the original tags on the dress, it was charged as
new merchandise.
The guy at the post office told her to tell me next time I send to
the UK to always tick the "gift" box and they would never
bother you. I have done that always in the last 5 years and my
family have never had to pay a customs charge ever.

They stop packages at random.....it's total crap!! They are only
supposed to charge merchandise items not gift items.
I can't believe this!!
Amanda, can you dispute this at the Post Office?




Save~A~Stray38434.2641550926


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 5:09am

Jenny - I know, that's why I'm willing to take the risk.  Can you imagine how much customs I would have had to pay on my recent $500.00 order from ebonyline LOL xx

SAS - As far as I'm concerned chick, I can't wait to pick it up and I'm not bothered about paying the extra money because it was such a bargain from you in the first place.  When you have to pay the extra customs they actually stick you a sticker on the package after customs has had it and it says on that even with gifts, if they are over $65 you still have to pay customs, I think that is disgusting xx

 @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 5:10am
Amanda, I just read your post.......I never wrote a $$$ value on
your package at all. Did they open up the packet?


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 5:11am

I've just replied above you LOL, I'm picking it up in about 4 hours from the post office so I'll let you know xxx

 @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 5:32am
Amanda~ Check your PM.


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 5:35am
Nothing in there chick xx @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 5:40am
You should have it now....I will resend again!!


Posted By: Amanda8Beechwoo
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 5:46am
Got it, replied to you twice xx @`d` $%re ,( (b` $$,b` .2 )!-!,$!,!-,%(@r '.


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 5:59am
Now, I'm thinking girls we are probably going to get custom
charges for these irons too?

What do you all think now?
This has totally thrown me for a loop here.....I don't know what
to think.

Let me know girls what you think about the customs issue, as
Sensual said they had no idea about us getting charged
customs fees on our end. I have always have to pay customs
fees from India each time.


Posted By: zapevaj
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 6:35am
Anyone here ordered from China before? I know I've never been charged customs on anything I've bought internationally, but that's only been from the UK or Canada. FWIW I see a whole lot more UK hairboard members mentioning customs charges than US ones. Sherrie and Fina, don't you guys buy form China a lot? D'you get tagged with customs?

Also, I know Doc used to have a "bulk order" (not wholesale) section of the website where you could buy large amounts of one product for less than retail; i.e. 3 jars of microrings for $60, etc. I can't find it on the new site, but I don't know if theyhaven't put up a page for it or they just don't sell i that manner anymore. Would be worth emailing Doc and fiding out.

-Rae
$- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.%%%,(!) !,!(%,`" %4


Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 6:56am

Ive never been charged a customs fee on any of the hair supplies that Ive ordered from my Korean supplier. But I can tell you that he always markes my package as "Sample"(or something to that effect) and I can recall the value being wrote on the package as a small $ amount rather than the actual price that I paid.

I wonder if this is something new that customs has started doing? I have a package that is about to be shipped from my supplier by the end of March, I guess Ill let you know what happens with my shipment!

$- P cn`dp0% 00BB .64b" !( %($%,!)$!!!!8br 0


Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 23, 2005 at 2:27pm

I emailed Doc....she said she'd give us a 10% discount, but that only brings 'em down to $90 before shipping.

Mr. Chen said the T/T fee was approx. $30.  I will ask about customs...it had crossed my mind.  Obviously if the customs fees are out of this world, there's no point.  I send stuff to Canada all the time at work, but they have a customs value of zero.

And according to Paypal, I can receive up to $500 a month with no fees...the account resets on the 8th of each month.



Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 24, 2005 at 1:18am
Well, luckily the customs charge for Amandas hair was a false
alarm. It ended up being for another package she got from the
US. She should get the hair hopefully tomorrow, so fingers
crossed she doesn't get charged again. [[[pretty please]]]]

The only thing with customs charges is that they put the
charges on after the package has been shipped. You are not
going to know until it arrives in the US, what they are going to
do. I think this package with 10 irons would be a little too big of
a package to pass as a sample. I think. It really depends on
customs. Which side of bed they got out of that morning.

I am going to call Paypal tomorrow and find out what there deal
is about fees? I rarely use it so can't understand the fee
differences. Hopefully they will shed some light on that for me.

We still need a few more people to be able to get this off the
ground or we can go with Sensual on 8 irons if we fall short on
buyers. What are you girls thinking you want to do? Is anyone
considering just getting it from Docs?







Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 24, 2005 at 2:11pm

I asked Mr. Chen if his US customers have had to pay customs fees.  He said that once we paid DHL $50 we wouldn't have to pay anything else shipping and/or customs wise.

Let us know what Paypal tells you....I've received money from Sherrie and Rae without being charged any fees.

UPDATE: I called DHL, who told me to call US Customs...they seem to think we would be charged a customs duty of 6.5% for the irons, which is about $31 total.  If the total value was less than $200, there'd be no customs fee.  I'll tell Mr. Chen what I've learned.

This is proving more difficult than I thought, but it's really educational, if nothing else.  The only things I've ordered internationally before were PH and my ao dai from Vietnam...each was only worth $40 or so, therefore no fees.

leia197938435.6072685185


Posted By: eKatherine
Date Posted: Mar 24, 2005 at 5:56pm
If this doesn't work out, it's fine for me. It's not like the PH color wheels that I still haven't got and miss dearly. My mannequin head can wait for her shrinkies.

My daughter just informed me that she wants to do roller derby, and she wants my good speedskates. So I need to buy her some skates, or give up mine (which I don't want to do). Money, money, money. Maybe she'll get rich and famous, haha.


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 24, 2005 at 10:39pm
Okay, I called Paypal and they said it was 3.9% to accept an
overseas payment and a 30c transaction fee. (Not 4.279%), It
works out the same amount in the end, but I didn


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 25, 2005 at 2:04am
I just read on the BHM Forum, someone had just placed an
order with Mr Chen. I wonder if she will have customs charges?

http://forum.blackhairmedia.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=13998&
PN=1

I will keep following the story to see if she mentions anything
about extra charges.....
Save~A~Stray38436.0894097222


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 25, 2005 at 7:59pm
List so far.....

Leia
SAS
Sherrie
Katherine
Meriam
Octavia
Rae

We need 3 more people to go with Mr Chen (10 irons) or we
can go with Sensual with 1 more person (8 irons). Both will still
work out cheaper than buying from Docs.

Is there anyone else that wants a dual sided,
temperature controlled heat clamp? Save~A~Stray38436.8347337963


Posted By: stacey_m
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 2:09am
Hi!  I've been lurking around here for a bit and I would be very interested in buying a heat clamp.  The only problem is that I'm from Canada.  I don't really want to be a pain in the butt and add to the confusion.  So if it's not too much trouble for anybody, that I'd like to buy one   If it's just one more thing to worry about, I'll suck it up and pay full price somewhere.  Let me know!


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 6:36am
Hi Stacey~ I think that is possible


Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 11:42am
Could you contact the Sensual people and see if we'd have to pay customs fees?  I would hope that for $98 shipping that customs would be included.

It would be cheaper to buy from Mr. Chen, but I'm not sure if we'll get two more people.  I could post over on Quinn's and see if there are any more Americans (or even Canadians) who are interested.


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 12:02pm
Leia~This post was from the Sensual thread........

Yes we have the US type of clamp you are
looking for. We accept payment via TT/ Wire Service only. The
shipment will take the latest a week. We currently have only 8
pcs left but I will only charge you at USD$50 each.

No, I don know anything about the foreign customs practise. I
am sorry.

Thanks
Irene


Once they send out the item, they don't care what happens after
that. I have dealt with a few companies that told me no customs
charges. Then 3-4 days later my Fedex account would get
billed from US customs.
Save~A~Stray38437.5045601852


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 1:14pm
Leia~ I would rather try and stick to US if possible because
Canadians may have to pay customs twice....coming into the
US then to Canada. Or if you post on Quinns please let
Canadians know they may have extra charges.

I am waiting for Staceys response about Canadian customs.

I contacted Paypal and they said I would have to pay a cross
border fee to accept a Canadian purchase. She said it's a daily
rate which fluctuates daily at about 1%. She said I can figure
3.9% + transaction fee


Leia~Paypal told me that with a Personal account you cannot
even except more than $500 a month or you have to upgrade
to a Premier account. She also said with a Personal account
you cannot accept debit or credit card charges....only bank
transfer and e-check only. Once you upgrade to Premier you
then get charged up to 2.9% + 30c transaction fee for all
payments...bank transfer, e-check, debit or credit card
purchases. So now we know there is no way around the Paypal
fee.

Well, you can always pay by check ......and pay no fees!!

Save~A~Stray38437.565775463


Posted By: stacey_m
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 1:36pm
Hi.  Because this whole thing sounds so confusing, I'd totally understand if you wanted to keep the order to those in the US.

As far as Canada customs goes, it's really inconsistent.  My fiance and I buy a lot of things from the US and the UK and on occasion we do get stuck paying customs fees.  Generally, if the item is marked gift this doesn't happen.  There's no logic to it, really.  I've talked to people while disputing my customs fees [and eventually paying them ] and they tell me pretty much the same thing.  Luckily, it doesn't happen that often.

Oh, and the voltage in Canada is the same as in the US.
But like I said, if this is too much of a hassle, I wouldn't be offended at all.  I was just planning on buying a heat clamp sometime in the near future and thought that I may be able to save a little bit of money.  Looking for any opportunity I can find, especially with the crappy Canadian exchange rate.





Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 1:44pm
Well, it's possible to avoid the Paypal fees, just not easy, and probably not likely.  It would mean no credit/debit cards and one or two people would have to mail a check.  So, at any rate, very difficult.  I do not have a bank account associated with Paypal, so I use my credit card for it.

So let's see... 8 irons at $50 ea + $98 shipping + 6.5% customs fees= $524  (they said they'd absorb the T/T fee, didn't they?)

Divide that by 8 people to get $65.50 each

Shipping is probably $5.75 for Priority mail...round up to $71.50

And a 3% (roughly) Paypal fee...about $2.15...that's $73.65

Let's round that up again to $74 each  (did I miss anything?)

Compared to an iron from Doc (approx. $108 including shipping), that's still a savings of over $30.  We might need to add another dollar each for bank fees or something.

As for Canadian customs, a single iron might be a small enough thing to pass with little or no charges.  I don't know.  US Customs told me that $200 or less was exempt here....maybe the Canadians have something similar.  And whatever happened to NAFTA?  Free trade, people!

Stacey, if you're willing to pay a few more dollars (and whatever the currency conversion is), I think it's cool.
leia197938437.5748842593


Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 2:01pm
Here's how Canadian customs works....if it's sent as a gift, you just pay the taxes and duties over $60 CAN.  The irons and $50 US currently work out to $60.87.  So you'd pay taxes and duties on 87 cents.  Since we're not a business, company, or association, we can send it as a gift...it just needs a card that says it's a gift...so Stacey...Happy Easter!  =)

Here's the handy page from Canada Border Services Agency: http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/import/courier/postal/ind_duty_free-e.html - http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/import/courier/postal/ind_duty_fr ee-e.html leia197938437.5860300926


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 2:04pm
Stacey~ Please don't think I'm trying to say no to you because
really I'm not at all. I would just feel bad if customs were to slam
you at your end too. I would absolutely put gift on the package
as I always do to help people avoid customs. It has always
worked for me. You just have to be prepared just incase. I just
thought it would keep things simpler to try and stay within the
US. You are very welcome to join in with us.....so please don't
feel you're not.....okay dokey. As Leia said you will have to pay
a couple bucks more on the shipping charges.



Leia~ Maybe you missed this.........


Posted: March 22 2005 at 1:03am | IP Logged       
Leia~ On an e-mail last week Sensual talked about absorbing
the wire charge. So I e-mailed her back to confirm this. This
was her response


Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 2:13pm
I couldn't remember and was too lazy to go looking. Sorry, I'm still having a hard time just getting the board to play nice with my browser.

So add another $3.75 to the total....
$77.75 each

Now I understand why Doc charges $100.leia197938437.5944675926


Posted By: stacey_m
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 2:40pm
Leia~ Nothing says Happy Easter like a heat clamp 

Save A Stray~ I just wanted you to know that I wouldn't feel even the slightest bit bad about not being included.  I realize that this entire order is very confusing to begin with and if it makes things simpler I wouldn't be sad about being exempt.  I just don't want you to feel bad about me feeling bad. This board in general seems like a very welcoming place.
Like I said, I'm just trying to save a couple of dollars where I can (I'm a student and tuition is not a pretty thing).  Besides that, most of the times I've gotten slammed by customs its been with orders from actual businesses (like Dr.Locs).   It's always a risk, so it's all good either way.


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 3:22pm
No problem Stacey!!

Well, we could wait for 2 more people and go with Mr Chen. He
is $48 cheaper on the shipping and $2 cheaper on the irons.
So 10 of us would save another $5. Is it worth the wait?
Whatcha think girls?



Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 3:26pm
Soooo....lets say customs does charge us, then what are we looking at $ wise? And just for the record, Ive always had to pay t/t fees on both ends of the transaction between my bank and my Korean suppliers bank. Which is generally around $ 25 each bank. Im alittle concerned because I dont know all the 'possible' charges that 'could' be involved yet! $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .64b" !( %($%,!)$!!!!8br 0


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 3:41pm
Really Sherrie, so you have had to pay both ends. I have never
had to do that from India.....only one way. Well, I just e-mailed
Irene to ask what the charges normally are one way. I know Mr
Chen had originally said $30-50 for wire fee then I read approx
$30 from the last post about that. So I guess we need a definite
fee from him to be able to see where we stand.

Gosh, this is getting to be much higher than we had originally
thought . I am wondering if it is worth all the trouble??

Leia~ Would you mind sending one more e-mail to Mr Chen to
finalize the wire fee for us (both ways?).........thank you kindly

Save~A~Stray38437.676087963


Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 9:53pm
Sherrie...in that $77.75 per person quote, I included customs fees.  The friendly customs agents at the San Jose International Airport told me we would be charged 6.5% of the value of the irons.  They were a little confused on what I was talking about product wise, but apparently there's a "hair styling" section, and they classified it a curling iron.  I said that was close enough.

SAS...Mr. Chen was guessing at how much we'd have to pay on our side for T/T fees.  He wasn't going to charge us again for his side.

My personal vote is to go with Sensual simply because we have eight people, and I'm not sure where we're going to find two other interested people.  It's probably only going to mean a difference of $8 or so, and I'm not sure if it's worth the effort to try and round up more people.  I'm hoping the eight we have are all still interested.


Posted By: Meriam
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 10:08pm

Hi all,

I am still in on the deal!

Leia, you are in San Jose, I am only about 1 hour away from you. What do ya know, we are neighbors!



Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 26, 2005 at 10:50pm
I am still in!!

If Mr.Chen is not going to charge us both ways then he is
definitely the best deal.

If I recall, Rae was not able to order for a week or two,,,,,,,so
we will have to wait a few for that. So we have time to try and
get 2 others......just a thought.

I am up for whatever girls!!

Leia~ You said you are not able to take this order on right?
I have no problem doing the ordering and shipping, if that's
okay with everyone,,,,,,,unless someone insists they do it. HaHa
Save~A~Stray38437.9518981481


Posted By: Syren123
Date Posted: Mar 27, 2005 at 12:16am
You chix are so HI FINANCE! Way to go!!


Posted By: amm
Date Posted: Mar 27, 2005 at 12:52am
An hour from San Jose? We must all be neighbors!

Wish I had the need for a heat clamp. The one I have works great but it sounds like a good enough savings just to buy a back up.

Need another person in on the deal? $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.!( ),))%!,,%$<"b .4


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 27, 2005 at 1:10am
Sure thing Amm!! Then we just need one more person and we
can get this iron even cheaper~ Way to go!!

Leia
SAS
Sherrie
Katherine
Meriam
Octavia
Rae
Stacey
Amm

C'mon ladies........one iron up for grabs!!

Leia~ Hun, you gotta hook me up with Mr Chen........if you aren't
going to do the order. I have no contact with him at all. Never
ever got a returned e-mail from him. Let me know if you can do
the order or not.

Girls, please confirm if you are still in or not so we can get this
order rollin soon.




Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: Mar 27, 2005 at 7:50am
I'm still with ya girls what ever you decide. Sorry I am not more involved this time, Ive just got so much going on and getting ready to move! I will be checking messages and the board, but if I disappear you'll know why! Im hoping I can have the new internet connection ready and waiting at the new place so Ill only be offline a day at the most..... argggggg, thats an awful thought! $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .64b" !( %($%,!)$!!!!8br 0


Posted By: eKatherine
Date Posted: Mar 27, 2005 at 10:01am
I'm still in. Let me know what I owe you when it's a go, send me your address, cause I don't do Paypal.


Posted By: leia1979
Date Posted: Mar 27, 2005 at 3:12pm
I'm so glad everyone's still interested!  So here's the new math for ordering from Mr. Chen:

10 irons at $48 ea + $50 shipping + 6.5% customs fees + $30 T/T = $591.20 (Mr. Chen claims we won't have to pay customs, but it's better to over-estimate)

$59.12 + $5.75 US mail + (2.9% + 30c) Paypal fee = $67.05

My shipping estimate is based on Priority mail weighing 2 pounds or less.  If it's more than two pounds, then shipping jumps to $7.70 for a Priority box.

Anyways, I think we're looking at about $69 each (a little extra to cover any packing materials, etc.)


Posted By: amm
Date Posted: Mar 27, 2005 at 6:40pm
Leia,

I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here for a moment.

Has anyone done business successfully with Mr. Chen? Why is SAS
not getting responses to her emails? This is an overseas purchase so
what is the time frame to expect these irons? What is the recourse if
they do not arrive? What if they arrive damaged or some are non-
functioning?

Earlier today I let SAS know after I did a bunch of reading of this
thread that I pulled out. The main reason is that I don't want to risk
all this money for a $20 savings and then have her feel responsibile.
I couldn't live with myself if she or anyone felt they needed to repay
me if these things didn't arrive.

This is over half a grand of money that's going overseas. I,
personally, would not risk it.

Just my two cents. Good luck to those who still want to go forward. If
they do get here, it's a heck of a deal. $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.!( ),))%!,,%$<"b .4


Posted By: eKatherine
Date Posted: Mar 27, 2005 at 7:02pm
Hmm...


Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: Mar 27, 2005 at 7:18pm
Hey girls hold on to your panties....Im checking with my Korean supplier to see what he will do for me on their dual sided iron. According to the price list the price each is $50 if you purchase 10. I have a hair order about to be shipped out so lets see what we can do with them. I do know that I trust the hair21 company, as Ive done business with them for years. Amm has a very good point. $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .64b" !( %($%,!)$!!!!8br 0


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 28, 2005 at 12:40am
Yes, the Aries in me wants to rush ahead as usual and get
things rollin


Posted By: sherrie215
Date Posted: Mar 30, 2005 at 8:54pm

Well chickies, I got a response from my supplier and they dont have any of the 280 irons in stock with the correct plug type that we need in the USA. The ones they have in stock we would need a convertor/adaptor to use. He gave me a great deal at $50 each including EMS postage for 10 irons. But totally useless to us without the right plug and didnt know exactly when they would have the ones we need in stock. So much for that idea! I think it might be wise for everyone to just dish up the $20 or $30 extra, bite the bullet and purchase from a supplier here that we know we can trust, and know what the final cost will be. On one of these overseas shipments we could end up getting hit with a customs charge and cost us all more in the long run. And then if there are any faulty irons it could be a hassle if not impossible to make a return or exchange.

$- P cn`dp0% 00BB .64b" !( %($%,!)$!!!!8br 0


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 31, 2005 at 8:35am
well, I just got this a few minutes ago!!


Hi,

Are you still interested? If you are please send in the money by
this week. As this iron is very fast selling, we are not keeping
stock for you. We are infact risng prices for this product. By next
week, the iron will be USD$70.00 each irregardless of quantity.

Thanks
Irene





Posted By: amm
Date Posted: Mar 31, 2005 at 9:07am
Ohhh, the high pressure you'll-never-get-another-deal-like-this-ever-again approach.

Gimme a break. Let someone else get burned. (Get it? Burned? I kill me.) $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.!( ),))%!,,%$<"b .4


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 31, 2005 at 9:15am
I'm not even going to reply to her!!

Amm~HAHA....lovin the new pic!!


Posted By: amm
Date Posted: Mar 31, 2005 at 9:18am
SAS, my avatar is what I looked like after I had Hairlocs removed. $- P cn`dp0% 00BB .(4`p /.!( ),))%!,,%$<"b .4


Posted By: Save~A~Stray
Date Posted: Mar 31, 2005 at 9:36am
Okay I had to sign back in when I read your post...


Hey, maybe Hairlocs want to use your pic for their ads!! Great
Advertisement for them!! LOVE IT!! The perfect model for them!!



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