Putting hair up?
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Topic: Putting hair up?
Posted By: Johlis
Subject: Putting hair up?
Date Posted: Jun 14, 2004 at 3:20am
Hello, everyone. I'm having a bit of a hair dilemma here that I was hoping to get some advice on.
My hair is currently just barely past shoulder-length, and I'm trying to grow it out. The problem is that since I don't like the way my hair looks down right now, and don't have much time in the mornings to get ready, I always wear it up (in a bun, or with hairpins, etc.).
Is constantly wearing it up going to cause excess breakage/damage to my hair? What are the best ways to minimize it?
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Replies: 45
Posted By: Johlis
Date Posted: Jun 14, 2004 at 3:20am
Hello, everyone. I'm having a bit of a hair dilemma here that I was hoping to get some advice on.
My hair is currently just barely past shoulder-length, and I'm trying to grow it out. The problem is that since I don't like the way my hair looks down right now, and don't have much time in the mornings to get ready, I always wear it up (in a bun, or with hairpins, etc.).
Is constantly wearing it up going to cause excess breakage/damage to my hair? What are the best ways to minimize it?
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Posted By: Viktoria
Date Posted: Jun 14, 2004 at 11:34pm
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Posted By: hairalways
Date Posted: Jun 15, 2004 at 7:23am
I was just thinking about this a few hours ago when I was pulling my hair up into the pony it would hang in all day. I live in FL, so it is a survival tactic to pull the hair off of the body. You know, to prevent from dying of heat stroke!
Here's my take on this. I pull may hair into the sam spot pretty much every time I pull it up, so there is really only one major area of my hair that is being pressed on by the band - one stress point. This stress point is about 1/2 inch in width. Well, hair grows 1/2 inch or so per month, so i figure I am only putting stress on that point for 1 month...then it moves down and I am on to the next 1/2 inch of virgin hair!
maybe that's why my hair looks smoother above the pony....hmmm.
Jacqui
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Posted By: Elissa
Date Posted: Jun 15, 2004 at 8:08am
I think if you don't pull it "up" too tightly, you should be all right. I wear my hair up a lot and it's not damaged as a result.
Be especially careful with ponytail holders. Make sure they're soft and covered. Don't use regular rubber bands, nor those old fashioned ponytail holders with the metal on them--your hair can get stuck in there and rip (mine always did). |
Posted By: DaveDecker
Date Posted: Jun 16, 2004 at 4:55pm
Welcome Johlis! Thanks for posting your question. 
A few additional thoughts... vary your do's. Braid, then bun, then pony, and so on. Also, pin or secure at different spots so the same spot doesn't always receive the stress of the hair-holding accessory.
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Posted By: Viktoria
Date Posted: Jun 16, 2004 at 6:00pm
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Posted By: kab
Date Posted: Jun 16, 2004 at 7:41pm
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Just another tip---instead of using a rubber band or elastic, use a cloth-covered "scrunchie" to hold the pony tail before arranging it into a bun. It will pump up the size of the bun and you will have some extra places to tuck hair in while at the same time using fewer pins.
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Posted By: Elissa
Date Posted: Jun 18, 2004 at 7:59am
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I agree, scrunchies are GREAT for making buns. My hair is pretty thick, and I can do a nice high bun with only two scrunchies, eliminating pins completely! |
Posted By: Gollan
Date Posted: Jun 18, 2004 at 8:31am
 y hair is pretty thick, and I can do a nice high bun with only two scrunchies, eliminating pins completely! |
Elissa, can you briefly describe how you do this? (Not having the benefit of sisters growing up, I am catching up on long hair styling techniques).
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Posted By: Elissa
Date Posted: Jun 18, 2004 at 12:50pm
1. I make a ponytail with a scrunchie, wrapping the scrunchie twice. This can be done low at the neck (for a chignon-type bun), at the middle of the back of the head or on top of the head for the highest bun.
2. Then I take the ponytail and wrap it around the scrunchie, making it into a circle or "O" flat against my head (you may have to do this 2 or 3 times or more depending on the length and thickness of your hair. Twice works best for me).
3. Tuck ends under the circle and secure with the 2nd scrunchie, again you may need to wrap the scrunchie 2 or 3 times to keep the bun from falling apart.
For any shorter pieces that fall out, you can either encourage them to curl or wave, or secure them with flat clips.
It's hard to write instructions--I hope I've conveyed this ok. It's really really easy! |
Posted By: Gollan
Date Posted: Jun 18, 2004 at 2:26pm
Elissa, thanks! Those are the clearest bun instructions I've ever read. Seriously. Now I just have to get some scrunchies  .
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Posted By: arch94
Date Posted: Jun 18, 2004 at 4:04pm
I know i'm not very popular here, but I do have a legitimate question about this thread...
Do they make scrunchies for guys? My wife used to use them before she cut hers short, and the ones she used don't seem like they'd look right for a man.
Again, I'm not being sarcastic or sexist. Would a guy just use a color appropriate for a man?
Curious observer this time.
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Posted By: Bob S
Date Posted: Jun 18, 2004 at 4:25pm
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YES!!! Do whatever it takes to get past the difficult stages. I LOVE updos! Good luck! Bob
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Posted By: Viktoria
Date Posted: Jun 18, 2004 at 5:52pm
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Not only guys shy away from pink scrunchies. I would never use any accessory that was not brown, black or made of silver, copper or dark wood in my hair. There are lots of cool, elegant stuff out there that does not look "girly" and would suit a man just fine, one just has to look for it. It % C`e adu a - , `b 4(` /.%% -$ ,%$! 8bp ,(
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Posted By: Gollan
Date Posted: Jun 18, 2004 at 7:45pm
| o they make scrunchies for guys? |
Hair accessories have no gender. Many of them are designed to appeal to female tastes but this is going to change as male long hair becomes more common.
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Posted By: Elissa
Date Posted: Jun 19, 2004 at 5:32am
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I prefer them to be plain and black or navy myself. |
Posted By: DaveDecker
Date Posted: Jun 19, 2004 at 8:18am
The technical (?) term for the hair-holding device I use at the base of my ponytail/braid is a terrycloth-covered elastic. I also use "Ouchless" No Metal Clasps from Goody to tie off the end of my braid.
I also have a Native-American inspired ponytail hair tie which is decidedly masculine-looking.
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Posted By: Viktoria
Date Posted: Sep 16, 2004 at 6:42pm
I have only seen that done once, by an actress with curly, whiteblond and, I think, rather thin hair. It looked wonderful, I think she just did a knot with it. Sooo cool!
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Posted By: Layla
Date Posted: Sep 28, 2004 at 2:44pm
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Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Sep 28, 2004 at 5:35pm
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Classic length is all the way down to the crease at the end of your bum. Where bum becomes thigh. I think it was originally supposed to be the length of Golden Proportion (approx 62%) for the body height. It's supposed to be the most eye-appealing and aesthetically pleasing length for hair. and ... IT'S MY HAIR GOAL!!! WHOOPEEE! $$ )'```ara $).,`` %*,`r !,,!-- ,,)-% ! " $4
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Posted By: Viktoria
Date Posted: Sep 29, 2004 at 2:51pm
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Posted By: AngelFace
Date Posted: Sep 30, 2004 at 7:45pm
first off, i'd like to say that, yes, scrunchies are way easier on the hair than rubberbands, but my friends would laugh me off the planet if they ever saw me wearing one in public.
okay, with that out of the way i'd like to give another alternative to wearing hair up without a ton of breakage. i'm a latina and a lot of us like to wear our hair very tight off our faces whether it's in a bun or a ponytail. naturally, this causes wispies and a lot of breakage in front after a while. what i realized could prevent this is parting your hair and then pulling it back instead of just gathering it all and pulling it straight back. i've been doing this for a while and my hair has really improved. sorry if someone said this already, i didn't really read all the replies *blushing* ..::vanessa::..
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Posted By: korsakovhatt3
Date Posted: Oct 1, 2004 at 7:31pm
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My hair is pretty long -- waist-length. It's very soft and silky, so I can't get it to stay in a high bun without a scrunchie, a chopstick or a pencil on hand. I can make a low bun (at the nape of the neck) quite securely without any hair holders. I twist the length of my hair tightly, then make a loop. I bring the end through the front of the loop, then around the back and through the front again. There are usually a few loose ends falling out, but I like how they look. I'm not sure if this would work as well on shorter hair -- I think that going through the loop twice is the key to securing it. ! % A` nade a p / ,bb . %!$ !!,, -% `` !.
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Posted By: korsakovhatt3
Date Posted: Oct 1, 2004 at 7:36pm
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On the subject of hair accessories for men -- I suggest soft suede covered pony tail holders. I use them almost everyday. I have them in a variety of shades from beige to dark brown. It looks good if you use a shade that blends with your hair colour. I'm a woman, but I think they would look great in a man's hair as well. ! % A` nade a p / ,bb . %!$ !!,, -% `` !.
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Posted By: DaveDecker
Date Posted: Oct 3, 2004 at 11:08am
Hi korsakovhatt3 and vanessa - welcome!
korsakovhatt3, I see that glimpse of "soft and silky" hair in your avatar photo. Is that yours? Very pretty.
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Posted By: korsakovhatt3
Date Posted: Oct 3, 2004 at 2:14pm
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Hi Dave. That is my hair in the photo. Thanks for the compliment. Your hair, by the way, is spectacular. ! % A` nade a p / ,bb . %!$ !!,, -% `` !.
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Posted By: DaveDecker
Date Posted: Oct 4, 2004 at 5:39pm
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Thank you very much!
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Posted By: eKatherine
Date Posted: Oct 9, 2004 at 6:05pm
I wear my hair up every day. When I do a braided 'do, I put the hair in a high pony first, but when I do a bun, I don't put it in a band at all.
My hair is too heavy and slippery, so I couldn't possibly keep it up without any pins. I use lots of pins. The more pins, the more evenly distributed the weight and stress is across my scalp. Now it's gotten to the point that I can keep it up perfectly all day, with no urge to take it down. |
Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Oct 10, 2004 at 1:44pm
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eKatherine, do you mean Amish pins? I'm thinking of getting a pack for experimentation... SOMETHING has got to work for this slippery hair. $$ )'```ara $).,`` %*,`r !,,!-- ,,)-% ! " $4
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Posted By: Viktoria
Date Posted: Oct 10, 2004 at 3:45pm
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You know guys, here is what I have found about slippery hair: If you plan to wear it up anyways, skip the conditioner. That % C`e adu a - , `b 4(` /.%% -$ ,%$! 8bp ,(
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Posted By: PurpleBubba
Date Posted: Oct 10, 2004 at 4:40pm
I agree with Viktoria.
Your hair might not have conditioner on it, but it won;t have other stuff on it either like spray.
Sometimes giving your hair a day or two of rest from all products is good for it. Give it a chance to breathe (not literally but let air touch it)
Remember less is more sometimes. |
Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Oct 10, 2004 at 10:32pm
That makes sense... I wish I could have both good slip and updoability. I went coneless once and it did give good updo hold. But the weather here is just so extreme, that I don't dare go coneless very often (hair dries like the Charles D.ickens).
Anyone tried Amish pins? $$ )'```ara $).,`` %*,`r !,,!-- ,,)-% ! " $4
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Posted By: eKatherine
Date Posted: Oct 11, 2004 at 7:27am
Oh, gosh, if I didn't use conditioner in my hair, it would be lots shorter and all broken at the bottom.
I don't use Amish hairpins, I use Bunheads, in both the medium and long lengths. You can get them at a dance supply shop. Lots of people have good luck with the Amish hairpins, but Bunheads are available to me locally.
I also use the short hairpins you can get at the supermarket, the strong ones, not the fine ones.
http://www.bunheads.com/producttext/3sizes_hairpins.html - http://www.bunheads.com/producttext/3sizes_hairpins.html "> Bunheads hairpins |
Posted By: Viktoria
Date Posted: Oct 11, 2004 at 8:53am
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Posted By: DaveDecker
Date Posted: Oct 11, 2004 at 1:56pm
I'm with you, eKatherine. I once made the mistake of going without conditioner. Big mistake. My hair was unmanageable. Could not get a comb through it. (BTW, your hair is gorgeous!)
Anais Satin, is that your beautiful hair in your avatar photo? Wow, so glossy!
Feeling like showing a pic of your hair worn loose, Viktoria? 
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Posted By: korsakovhatt3
Date Posted: Oct 11, 2004 at 9:39pm
I agree with you, Dave, I'd like to see Viktoria's hair loose. I'm sure it would be beautiful.
I don't know what Amish hair pins are either. I keep my hair up securely with a wooden stick. I don't know if they have a proper name, but they're about 8 inches long, rounded and tapered to a pointed end. I have quite a few of them in different woods with bone and nacre inlays on the wide end. (I don't like hairpins; I like to be able to let my hair down quickly without having to pull out a bunch of pins.) I just put my hair in a bun (starting with a ponytail in a no-snag ponytail holder) and weave the stick in and out of the base of the ponytail to secure the bun. If I want a tighter bun I use the stick with a leather bun holder. ! % A` nade a p / ,bb . %!$ !!,, -% `` !.
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Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Oct 12, 2004 at 9:45pm
Thanks for the hair compliments everybody! (This is the first few days of having a hair photo online and such good juju from board members... and it was funny when a member mistook the half-up pic for a cat, so I switched it to a full bun! I thought that was soo hilarious and cute.) And FINALLY something keeps my hair up! Wavy, crimped, or corkscrew hairsticks!!!!
Viktoria--from what I've seen of Amish pins, they're the kind that are bent in a U shape but have no crimping. They are 2-3 inches long and are supposed to be more durable than normal hair pins.
Well eKatherine, I went on the Bunheads site (I see direct links don't work on HB anymore. It confused me for awhile) and those hair pins are fantastic : ) They also have a store locator.. and [dunn dun dunnnnn] there's a Dance store 3 minutes from my apartment! Off to buy hair pins... Thanks eKatherine!
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Posted By: Layla
Date Posted: Oct 13, 2004 at 10:00am
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Your hair is so pretty ,Anais. I love it.! % !c. ` Ba % , 0 " ,"B "2%,$ %,%$(( $ "2
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Posted By: Viktoria
Date Posted: Oct 13, 2004 at 5:02pm
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There seem to be so much fabulous hair accessories in the US! Not in Lule % C`e adu a - , `b 4(` /.%% -$ ,%$! 8bp ,(
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Posted By: AnaisSatin
Date Posted: Oct 13, 2004 at 5:47pm
Thanks Layla! ((hug))
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Posted By: korsakovhatt3
Date Posted: Oct 13, 2004 at 11:35pm
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Viktoria, I know what you mean about making a torch of yourself. I once caught my hair on fire while walking past a lit candelabra. Do post a picture of your hair down though, if you can. I'm sure everyone would love to see it. Just stay away from open flame until you put your hair up again. ! % A` nade a p / ,bb . %!$ !!,, -% `` !.
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Posted By: Suers
Date Posted: Oct 18, 2004 at 10:44am
Here is site with photos on how to make a bun. Note as well, this site shows masculine styles.
http://gollan.pwaresearch.com/hp/bbbun.html - http://gollan.pwaresearch.com/hp/bbbun.html
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Posted By: Suers
Date Posted: Oct 18, 2004 at 10:45am
Here is site with photos on how to make a bun. Note as well, this site shows masculine styles.
http://gollan.pwaresearch.com/hp/bbbun.html - http://gollan.pwaresearch.com/hp/bbbun.html
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Posted By: DaveDecker
Date Posted: Oct 19, 2004 at 6:28pm
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LOL. Maybe the pic was a bit too tightly cropped?
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Posted By: rosebud
Date Posted: Oct 30, 2004 at 12:42am
It keeps it away from heat & environmental elements. It's good in general to tie your hair. IF YOU HAVE THICK HAIR beware. I used to have long hair & its thick, curly. I started losing hair in the front cause i would tie it. It was too heavy. If your hair is thinner, you should be fine.
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Posted By: emilee
Date Posted: Oct 30, 2004 at 1:52pm
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and how does your hair stay like this?
..sounds like something i want to try.
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