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Luvlybelizean View Drop Down
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Posted: Jul 07, 2006 at 10:52pm
 
ive heard a couple of people comment  about cathy Howse's book, i wanted some feed back, i was on her web site couple minutes ago, this is my second time on her web site, does anyone have a testimony about her techniques, and what is her system based on, i dont want to buy the book, if im not able to get products at affordable prices at my local bss.
 
check out her web if you havent, her hair really looks nice and some of her customers testimonies are believable.
 
 
 

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Posted: Jul 07, 2006 at 10:52pm
i liked the book and it was informative to me, and dispelled a lot of myths that over the years you come to believe about hair growth.. i felt it was very helpful for me in my hair growth journey and affected how i looked at things and how to proceed.. i've used the products, i love the conditioner it makes your follicles tingle a lot, its great..i like the cream lotion and the dew mist...i thought it was for helpful for me and benefiicial..

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Posted: Jul 08, 2006 at 10:52pm
I've had questions about this book too. Wanted to buy but do you actually have to use her products to get the results?

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Posted: Jul 08, 2006 at 10:52pm
like i said the book was very helpful to get me going in the right direction, i continued to do my research and explore other avenues keeping in mind what she had said.. and i was able to find other products that you can use that are not her's..like she doesn't have a shampoo but she gives you information like on what types of shampoos would be best for ethnic hair.. and taught a lot about ph levels etc.. i have not found a conditioner that give such a refreshing tingle to my scalp like her's, i use other's but i always save her's for the last treatment that i use, b/c it does open up the follicles and when i begin to apply leave in conditioners and my MTG and Gueye Fast Growth Oil, i like my follicles to be open to receive the benefits.. if i could find a conditioner that would open up my follicles like that i would.. like yesterday i used sea breeze on my scalp after doing a pre poo with olive oil and carrot oil that definitely gave my scalp a good tingle..

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Posted: Jul 08, 2006 at 10:52pm
So using a tingling shampoo helps the hair to grow?

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sexibeach View Drop Down
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Posted: Jul 08, 2006 at 10:52pm
well scalp stimulation to the follicles is important b/c it gets the blood flowing to the follicles which helps the hair to grow.. so you definitely want to stimulate the follicles..massaging them as well prmotes hair growth which is almost what the stimulation is doing for the follicles.. follicle care is just as important if not more so than the care of the actual hair, some people get to caught up in the hair care products and forget that if you don't have a healthy scalp with proper blood flow to your follicles your hair won't grow...

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Posted: Jul 10, 2006 at 10:52pm
When I was on her website, she said something about trimming your ends not being necessary. What do you ladies think of this. Sexibeach, did she further explain in her book?

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Posted: Jul 12, 2006 at 10:52pm

I purchased the book but it hasn't arrived yet. when i read it i will let you know what i think.

I have heard many times from h/dressers that clipping is necessary and then i read on Howse website that clipping is not.  one thing that i learned from going to the hairdresser is that they over do it. the only time i would let a hairdresser in my head with a scissors is if i wanted a specific style, so then a cut is required. i found that clipping doesn't change the hair growth if anything it keeps it short.
i had my hair "clipped' 2 yrs ago and i regret it. it was past my shoulders. yes i left with a short do and the words 'i know i clipped alot but it was worth it'. I wondered for who..... lol.  

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Posted: Jul 12, 2006 at 10:52pm
I know what you mean completely. Hairdressers always cut too much. No matter if your tell them you're trying to grow it out. Thats why no one else puts scissors to my hair but ME!

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Posted: Jul 13, 2006 at 10:52pm
 Wow you guys were very helpful, i love to read different views on the same subject. one book i read that was helpful was Beautiful Black Hair: Real Solutions to Real Problems--A Step by Step Instructional Guide By Shamboosie. this book gave me everything i need to know about relaxers, the #1 cause of hair breakeage in ethnic hair when its not applied properly. He also mentioned a vhs  instructional guide on caring, and setting the hair, but i cant find that thing anywhere! He also has a 12 month hair growth regime, i have to find that piec of info so i can post it up maybe someone finds bits and pieces that are helpful.
 
sexibeach- did the UBH conditioner open your follicles or all of the products?  to use a product that opens up the follicles sounds really good  something to try besides using peppermint oil and water. Do you use the conditioner once a week or as a CO? Love your info gurl!! Its like we become hair care experts. I LUV IT!!!!

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Posted: Jul 14, 2006 at 10:52pm
yes the conditioner does open up the follicles, i tend to agree with her on the concept of all the cutting isn't necessary..b/c hair is dead, its the follicles that are alive and produce the growth..we need to keep the ends and hair moist so that it won't break in order to get length and maintain it as it grows from the follicles.. she states that she feels that trimming is only necessary when your hair is uneven..she says she doesn't trim her ends now that she's obtained the growth unless she needs to be even..i also use the MTG and mix it with Gueye Fast Growth Oil as part of my routine and i add jamaica black castor oil with WGO to seal the moisture in..plus moisture and protein treatments weekly, keep the heat off, and i'm not using chemicals right now.. but there's also some herbs that can boost the follicles called hair rush..
 
 
 
 

HAIR GROWTH AIDS:

 

Capsicum is the same thing as cayenne and Madam CJ Walker used to use a lot of capsicum in her growth potion. The gueye's growth hair oil which was formulated by an herbalist Linda Gueye who grew her own permed hair from shoulders to almost waist in 2 1/2 years using her growth system ,list as ingredients:


cold pressed olive oil,capsicum,rosemary, aloe vera resin,sage,kelp,nettle,alfafa,horsetail,peppermint .


About the oil, Herbalist Linda Gueye states in her "Grow your hair 1 inch in 2-4weeks "booklet:

"With Gueye-Mother Nature's Best Fast grow Hair oil formula L31, it is possible to see hair growth within a few days of use. Many receding and balding men and women are seeing remarkable results from this product. Formula L31 is excellent for scalp irritation, dandruff and other scalp problems. It actually assist in healing the scalp of many problem


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Posted: Jul 14, 2006 at 10:52pm

is shapleys mtg, a watery formula or its like a moisturizer? if its like a moisturizer i would seal that in w/ a hair oil but im not sure what oil to use yet. my hair is braided in extensions ill take them out august 8th(2mo) or if icant got for 2mo, ill take them down at the end of this mo.

i want to line up a final list of products to use while my hair is out of extensions. this is what im thinking:

Carme biotene H-24 shampoo,conditioner, and scalp emulsion ( at GNC and Vitamin shoppee)

LeKairs cholestrol Plus

Shea butter moisturizer( that i see at my Local BSS)

And i need a oil-- if you highly recomend the Gueye's ill try it, as for the WGO, i dont like the smell and im not sure how to hide that smell.

How is the MTG im tempted to try it,one of the gurls on the forum PM me and said the smell doesn't bother her. Did it promote any hair growth.

P>S do you have a album? im starting one


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sexibeach View Drop Down
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Posted: Jul 14, 2006 at 10:52pm
no MTG is strickly for the scalp to promote hair growth it has sulfur in it, i think the braids right now would be perfect for that.. the Gueye Fast Growth Oil or WGO wild growth oil would be better for sealing the moisture.. Gueye's can also be used as a hot oil treatment.. these are not the things i use as part of my routine.. i use the ultra black hair care conditioner, and aphogee protein treatments, balance moisturer..and a peppermint scrub shampoo along with Folligen a copper therapy based shampoo..

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Posted: Jul 16, 2006 at 10:52pm
I've read her book.  As a matter of fact, if you search the forum, I've posted some information about her newest book due out soon. 
 
You don't have to use her products to get results.  Ms. Howse definately got me on the right path to great hair care. 

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Posted: Jul 18, 2006 at 10:52pm
Hey there, I got the book yesterday and finished it this morning.  It is not a long read at all. It captivates and it makes you want to read from beginning to end.
Well I found it enlightening. NO MORE BRUSHING! But it used to feel so good against the scalp .
But hey Howse recommends we simply massage the scalp, same benefits but in a better way for 'our' hair. I agree. My brush had more hair than i do.
 
Anyways i think the book is worth the read. She really spells it out. and i liked how she didn't fluff things up. She said it and I got it.
 
By the way sexibeach. MTG I was wondering how you applied that. I have some here, that I bought with my other MT stuff but the smell.

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Posted: Jul 19, 2006 at 10:52pm
[QUOTE=kellie7777]Hey there, I got the book yesterday and finished it this morning.  It is not a long read at all. It captivates and it makes you want to read from beginning to end.
Well I found it enlightening. NO MORE BRUSHING! But it used to feel so good against the scalp .
But hey Howse recommends we simply massage the scalp, same benefits but in a better way for 'our' hair. I agree. My brush had more hair than i do.
 
Anyways i think the book is worth the read. She really spells it out. and i liked how she didn't fluff things up. She said it and I got it.
 
By the way sexibeach. MTG I was wondering how you applied that. I have some here, that I bought with my other MT stuff but the smell.
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i mix it with the other oils i've referred too, and add a little lavander oil for a better scent, put it in a squirt bottle and apply to the scalp only..

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Posted: Jul 19, 2006 at 10:52pm
Okay thanks.
I got some lavender oil, so i will put some in it.
Lavender oil here cost $16.95. for like 2 ml.
I was shocked. Someone gave me a bottle for my bath. I didnt know it was that expensive. Sheesh

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Posted: Aug 02, 2006 at 10:52pm
I think the key is to Howse's products is that they don't coat the shaft like all the other junk. But the fact of the matter is you dont necessarily have to buy her stuff, her success is not exclusive, you can make it yourself. Just look up soapmaking.

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my first time blogging here but when i read the mention of that book Ultimate Black Hair Growth (or UBHG) i couldn't resist

the products sucked... i returned all of mine PRONTO! lol i remember packing all that stuff up..which wasnt bad for $30 but i found that pricey since...they were only 8 ounce bottles-if they were better quality i would not mind since im saving money anyways by doing home treatments--but i would not recommend the products to any1-- although she says in the book that the conditioner isn't designed to 'soften' the hair. im sorry kathy but for those prices...you need to step up your game and research a little better for a product that softens and offers protein + all those other good ingredients in your conditioner all in 1 bottle so I'll have 1 less step and avoid shelling out more $$$ on hair softeners

other than that..i enjoyed the book     i still have it and i agreed with most of the things she discussed...especially the sad games/lies that the salon industry boosts as good hair advice..and the conspiracy to get women to cut their hair/trim it to cut hair salon time so the stylist can fit in more customers-lol     i know for a fact my hair grew faster/better when i quit the visits and only returned for an occasional relaxer (when i cant get some1 to put a simple mild/regular strength box relaxer in my head at home)--since i no longer relax my hair year round...it doesnt make sense. my hair isnt all that coarse & it isnt feasible because i live in an extremely muggy/humid southern city-i only wear it straight for rare special occasions (flat iron) or during cold months -why waste all my money on a relaxer that won't last in the summer and will look more like a curly perm in 2 weeks and $60??? not i)

i truly question the salon stylists-who often give bad information or none whatsoever on hair maintenance care...they want you to keep coming to the salon and shelling out that money every week...sometimes twice a week if you have several events to attend   Howse was right about black women needing to take control over your own haircare and researching to make good hair care decisions

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Posted: Feb 25, 2007 at 10:52pm
ok..i do not know what sexibeach is talking about but ummm...(giggle) i hope she isnt using horse shampoo lol

i dont know about using tagley's horse MTG..but um...i wouldnt try that

BUT..i DO know of a HUMAN hair shampoo/conditioner system that kathy howse mentioned in her book Ultimate Hair Growth "Mane n' Tail" which is for humans and has been around for YEARS! LOL they sell this stuff at walgreens and its super cheap..my friend and i used this in middle school to care for our (Black) hair..and we always had healthy, clean heads full of hair
check it out

http://www.amazon.com/Mane-Tail-Shampoo-oz/dp/B000G68YGU


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Posted: Feb 25, 2007 at 10:52pm
i know this blog is old but..i HAD to ask..are you using horse hair cleansers by the tagley mtg?? what made you use it?


lol

i asked b/c i know howse suggested "Mane n' Tail" conditioner...but its a brand see the link below

http://www.amazon.com/Mane-Tail-Shampoo-oz/dp/B000G68YGU

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Posted: Feb 25, 2007 at 10:52pm
well i haven't used it recently. i needed moisture so i did use the moisturizing poo and conditioner. But it didn't do much moisturizing for me. i think it is more for oily heads, that need to put some moisture back in their hair. i also had the MTG because it was supposed to make the hair grow fast. but i used it for about 1 mth and it would just make my roots really hard. so i threw it out.

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well i've been very successful in my hair growth, off the chain as a matter of fact.. just b/c you don't know about it doesn't mean it doesn't work b/c it does.. its just a lack of knowledge of the right things to do for your hair.. like moisturizing with a sealer oil.. if you don't have an understanding of why your hair breaks or sheds, and what's needed, not only for your hair but the hair follicles you'll never be able to retain length..that's why a good moisturizer and stimulation for the follicles and having the balance of moisture and protein is the only way your ever going to grow heathly hair..
 
moisturizers are products that are water-based and nourish your hair deep within the strand. water is the ultimate moisturizer so water based products are best for really getting the best moisture benefit. products with moisturizing properties tend to be your conditioners and other water-based products. moisturizers may also be protein-based, but these protein based moisturizers do not have the moisturizing benefit that moisture-based moisturizers have. good moisturizers will not contain ingredients like petrolatum, mineral oil, or lanolin. these are cheap product fillers. Be wary of products that claim moisturizing benefits and contain these ingredients. there is nothing moisturizing about them! Petrolatum and mineral oil are sealants and have the potential to suffocate the hair and scalp and seal out the moisture it needs.
 
our hair naturally contains moisture, but because our hair is also naturally porous, keeping the moisture inside is a difficult task. sources of outside moisture, or external moisture supplementation is necessary for black hair. water molecules and moisture from these supplemental moisturizing products easily passes into the hair shaft, but they pass out just as easily. the moisture you apply needs to hold in by something. Oil. 

a light coating of oil on top will help seal the moisture inside. Oils are made of large molecules. these molecules are too large to absorb by the hair strand. Applying oils to the hair and scalp will coat them and trap moisture that is inside on the inside and moisture that is outside on the outside. the key is to lock in the moisture within the strands with your oil. if you use oils without a moisturizer or before one, the oil will seal the moisture out of the hair strand and lead to eventual dryness.
 
oil alone will not and cannot moisturize within the hair shaft. An oil can only coat the outside of the strand, and give it shine- the illusion of moisture. the molecules that make oil are much too large to penetrate. oil molecules are

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Posted: Feb 26, 2007 at 10:52pm

I read the book too and though very informative, the information given, in my opinion was just common sense. It is a excellent book for beginners though, but if you are already experienced in caring for your hair and just need it to grow it is not going to be that interesting for you. I would recommend that you not purchase the book from the website. I bought the book on ebay for 7.00 my total purchase was 10.00 after shipping and it was brand new!. The products you don't need. If the products were all that good don't you think you would see it on shelves everywhere, like all of the other successful hair care products out here?  I will have to pass.

I have used Mane and Tale for years...and it works. Paul Mitchell is fantastic! Yes, on black hair!
I didn't have much success with Nexxus but you might.
 Just remember to keep your hair moisturized and  get lots of nutrition, and always, always, use a leave in conditioner. The information you read about water is so so true. I don't care for water but you get use to it after awhile. You will notice the diffrence. Try this test. Drink the minimum amout of water you are supposed to have daily for one week. Then the next week cut back to half the recommended amount. You will notice a drastic difference from the way your body reacts. You will slow down a lot. That means also that your growth is probally slowing down too.
 
I have naturally long hair. I have cut my hair so many times and it has always grown back. I am at midstage right now and growing my hair out for the last time as I am getting older and want to keep my hair long. I have a fear of becoming a bald headed old lady.(Yikes)
 
 The best thing that you can do to take care of your  hair is  vitamins and supplements. Just think about it. How ofter do you go to have your nails, and toes done. They always look great! Treat your hair the same way...thatz it!Embarrassed 
 
 I drink about two protein shakes a day, I take Omega 3, a hair supplement, a fruit supplement,  and drink a vegetable supplement everyday. I only eat real food. Try not to eat packaged food. Frozen Veggies okay but the other processed foods are loaded with preservatives that you don't need. (I cheat sometimes too!)
 
I exercise 4 days a week.
 I don't do hard exercises either, just pilates, the rowing machine, eliptical machine or treadmill. I have to because I sit down at work all day.The main thing is to keep you body moving. Sweating helps your release toxins from your body. In my opinion you have instructions on this website. Your money would be better spent in buying the supplements and tools you are going to be using. Wink

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Thumbs%20UpAlso per the book by Cathy that I strongly agree with
1. No Heavy Brushing
2. You do not need oil on your scalp (period)
     (thats what is making it break off!)
3. Leave you hair alone.  I see women combing their hair all the time. You are wearing your hair down. Let it rest.
 
PS as far as her tingly conditioner is concerned.  Paul Mitchell Shampoo w/Tea Tree is the bom....I live by it. I use it every other week and I get a big 16 or 32oz bottle on sale...online. I respect Cathy's Howse's products but until she is "on the shelf" competing with the rest of the tribe....I will just have to take "her" word for it.......not buying....no way! Not because I think it is a bad product, but it cannot be any better than what is out there and has been tried  by millions so that the consumer can make a "fair" decision about whether it is going to work for them. For example, when you grocery shop would you prefer to buy hunts, del monte tomato paste for example.....or would you buy the bargain buster great Cathys tomato past first batch..tested on lab rats that lived. I think I am going gto go with Hunts. Thanks
 
If you are wrapping your hair before you tie it down (with silk) before bed. That is the right way to go.
 
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