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DaveDecker View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 09, 2006 at 9:47pm
Last week, I had a discussion with a woman at the office (whom I hadn't seen around in awhile) whose hair is longer now than I've ever seen it (not especially long, just longer).

She told me that she wants it to be longer, but her hairstylist is always encouraging her not to do so.  Another woman at the office recently told me essentially the same thing.

What have been your experiences with stylists?  Do/have they counsel you not to go any longer?  Or are they fully supportive of your intention to maintain/grow long hair?

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philosophy girl View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 09, 2006 at 9:47pm

My (former) hair stylist always made slightly snide comments about how long my hair had gotten since the last time she had seen me.  I haven't been to a hardresser for well over a year now as I have never had a haircut that I liked.  Long + curly hair seems to be an issue lots of stylists just can't handle.

Now that I do s+ds and micro trims my hair (and ego) are a lot happier and healthier

 


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philosophy girl View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 09, 2006 at 9:47pm
plus I'm cheap

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Sasumi View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 09, 2006 at 9:47pm
Actually, my hairstylist is very supportive of me growing my hair. Every time I come she'll comment on how long it's become, and she'll never ask me if I want it short.

In fact, the first time I came to her, I wanted to cut my hair almost boy-short. She talked me into cutting it only to my chin. I'm happy she didn't cut it boy-short, because a month after cutting my hair, I wanted to grow it long.

But, she has waist-length hair, so that's probably the reason why she's supportive of me growing my hair.

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Hellfrozeover View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 09, 2006 at 9:47pm

The girl who cut my hair was always really good about me growing it and always complimented it's length. When I had to get another layer to get rid of some chlorene/sun damage she persuaded me not to go as short as I wanted.

Now I do it myself because it's easier and cheaper.


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horselover_1625 View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 09, 2006 at 9:47pm
I've never had my hair cut by a stylist, but I've gone into a few salons before and asked around, so I have run into a few different people. Some comment on how long it is and are very nice about it, whereas some try to pressure me into getting it cut. I'd say on the whole, there's been more supportive of my long hair than not.

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SpecialKitty View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 09, 2006 at 9:47pm

My experience with stylists overall has not been good. Most stylists commented on how thin and dry my hair is and encouraged me to keep it short. I had one good stylist years ago who cut it short (at my request) and told me I had beautiful hair and that if I wanted to grow it long, I should do so. So I guess it's good I had that one positive experience......oh, and PurpleBubba is always so supportive, he's a stylist, right?


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missrini View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 10, 2006 at 9:47pm
Good topic Dave!!  Like SK, I've had pretty bad stylist experiences.  They always look like they're having a hard time working with my hair, and used to comment on how frizzy it was and how it was hard to blow dry.  They always suggested trendy haircuts and loads of expensive products....and of course thought it just HAD to be straightened!!!  Of course, back when I used to go to a stylist I didn't have the knowledge I have now...so I just used to go along with them.  It's been 8 months since I've been to a stylist, and I'm very happy never to go to one again.

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Impaler Vlad View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 10, 2006 at 9:47pm
Most hairstylists I have seen (not to mention barbers )LOVE to chop hair and they are constantly discouraging people who want to grow they hair. This is one of the reasons I never entered in a barbershop since I was 16, and allways told my GFs to stay away of scissors. IMO, haircutters should be IMPALED.

Blessed be,

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Posted: Apr 10, 2006 at 9:47pm
[QUOTE=DaveDecker] She told me that she wants it to be longer, but her hairstylist is
always encouraging her not to do so.

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Tyranna View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 10, 2006 at 9:47pm

Mostly, no.  But then again, it is their professional interest to keep customers coming in.  And what easier way than to push shorter hair styles that have a shorter 'shelf life' so to speak and that requires more updating.  And I am wondering if it is less work for them to simply cut to a particular shorter style rather than work with the  longer hair curl and structure.  Saw one episode of 'What Not to Wear' and this blond girl insisted on keeping her length and the stylist Nick ended up doing a great job shaping it.  But he complained about all the work he had to do!

However, there were long-haired riendly stylsts out there willing to work with longer hair, l might consider going to them.


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KellyX View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 10, 2006 at 9:47pm

It seemed every time I went in for a trim I cut way more cut off than I wanted.  There was one I really like who told me " I cant glue it back on, so we will cut a little.  If you want more off, we can always cut it again." I like that philosophy, but she moved away.  I found another who was good the first time I saw him , but on the second trim......he messed up big time.  NOW, no trims at all for me for a long long time.  So I dont think most of them really are supportive.  Not the ones I've met anyhow.


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Posted: Apr 11, 2006 at 9:47pm

My hairdresser is a mix. When I see her she will exclaim over how long and pretty my hair hair is but she would prefer for me to trim it more often and get more cut off (only an inch!!??? What


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Posted: Apr 11, 2006 at 9:47pm
I am a hairdresser myself in Australia, and I find that the most stylists I work with, prefer to work with/cut shorter hair. My hair is BSL with my goal waistlength, and they used to constantly say, 'You should cut it shorter', or 'Why grow it longer, it looks good at that length'. I have just learned to ignore their comments and do what I want with my hair. The reason that most stylists want to cut off clients hair is simply because short hair requires regular trimming every 4-6 weeks, which brings in better business for the salon. You also usually need more styling products for short hair, therefore bringing another opportunity for a sale. In my opinion, long hair is alot easier to cut than short hair, and I prefer to work with long hair anyday. Whenever clients decide for the big chop, I never convince them to do it, I actually try to talk them into keeping a bit of length! Once you cut it off, it takes a long time to grow back!

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Impaler Vlad View Drop Down
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Judging by what Tyranna and Rinny 86 posted, those pricks deliberatelly destroy your crowning glory in order to make money out of youtr misery... Ladies, stay away from those scoundrels! I still say those s___heads should be impaled!

Blessed be,

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denika_s View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 11, 2006 at 9:47pm

I have only had to "fire" one hairstylist and that was over a year ago.  She admired my patience for maintaining my hair so well, but would always tell me that my hair was in need of an update.  When she took off 3 inches when I asked for a 1 inch trim, she got the boot and I never went back again!

The stylist I see now is great, although I do see her often.  She respects what I want for my hair.  Butttt......last time I was there she informed me she is moving to Ontario in May.  She has invited me in to meet a new girl, but I haven't went in to see her yet.\

~Den


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Sunsailing View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 12, 2006 at 9:47pm

My stylist has been very supportive. She only trims exactly what I ask her to.

I think it's important to find a stylist that you like and stick with them. I also believe in tipping well if your stylist does a good job!


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caramel View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 12, 2006 at 9:47pm
most of the stylists i've been to claimed that my hair was unhealthy and needed to be trimmed or even cut... most stylists i know, as friends or so, tell me my hair is very healthy... i concluded that, as Impaler Vlad mentioned, they're just after the money 

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Posted: Apr 12, 2006 at 9:47pm

I think hair stylists listen mostly when you make it clear exactly what you want.  If you know what you want you won't be pressured by them.

But in my experience, most hair stylists do pressure you to cut it off.  Shorter styles require more maitanence haircuts to keep the style.  But longer styles do not require as much haircuts if hair is kept healthy.  My hairstylist wanted me coming in all the time for trims even when it was long....so I think they just have a business to run and do what is necessary to keep customers coming back.

But from a stand point that I have ruined my hair being really stupid....my hairstylists have helped me fix my hair.  So...I don't think they are always bad....they just are running a business like everyone else.  I think hairstylists listen when the customer is VERY clear exactly what they want.


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caramel View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 12, 2006 at 9:47pm
[QUOTE=summer*22*]I think they just have a business to run and do what is necessary to keep customers coming back.[/QUOTE]

true.. i don't want to be harsh on them, i do understand that it's probably their source of income... some of them, though, are dishonest and will say anything just for the money... that i do not like at all

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Posted: Apr 13, 2006 at 9:47pm

My usual hairdresser has waist length hair and is always drawing attention to it by throwing it over her shoulder, wrapping it around her neck etc.  She was the one who encouraged me to grow out a short layered style and I'm really pleased about that. 

BUT  I never see anyone in her salon with hair much longer than shoulder length.  When mine reached that length she started to make comments about it needing more shape.  I'm still trying to grow out disgusting hair dye, so am carrying on with trims.  But when the dye has all gone, I'm going to grow it a few more inches. 

Another girl did my hair recently because my usual hairdresser was away.  She was excellent and put a lot of effort into it.  However, her own hair was short.  When I mentioned long hair, she was VERY forthright about how she doesn't think it looks good on people.

I think there is a lot of truth in what people say about hairdressers protecting their income.  Mine wasn't happy when I stopped having it dyed and made lots of comments that would have swayed a lot of women into using dye again.  She's given up now though!


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Posted: Apr 13, 2006 at 9:47pm
I'm hoping to be done with a stylist. I know if I need something my
sister-in-law (who does hair) can take care of me

I'm working on growing out bangs and getting rid of years and years of
color. I'm starting with Tea Tree shampoo. I asked my sister-in-law
about stripping the color. She went to Mally's and asked the pros and
cons for doing that to my hair. The cons out weighed the pros. So for
now I have to be really patient

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Impaler Vlad View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 13, 2006 at 9:47pm
[QUOTE=Sugarloaf]


Another girl did my hair recently.


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DaveDecker View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 13, 2006 at 9:47pm
[QUOTE=Sugarloaf]

My usual hairdresser has waist length hair and is always drawing attention to it by throwing it over her shoulder, wrapping it around her neck etc.  She was the one who encouraged me to grow out a short layered style and I'm really pleased about that. 

BUT  I never see anyone in her salon with hair much longer than shoulder length.  When mine reached that length she started to make comments about it needing more shape.[/QUOTE]

Well, doesn't that say a lot?  If she really believed what she said, why would she have waist-length hair?

[QUOTE=Sugarloaf]Another girl did my hair recently because my usual hairdresser was away.  She was excellent and put a lot of effort into it.  However, her own hair was short.  When I mentioned long hair, she was VERY forthright about how she doesn't think it looks good on people.[/QUOTE]

Well, doesn't that say a lot, too?  Seems she believes her customers ought to bend their will to hers.  Whose wishes are being served here?

[QUOTE=Impaler Vlad]

BOOO! She's wrong! Pls Tell her short hair is the ultimate proof of bad taste. Not only for women, but for men, too!
[/QUOTE]

So you dislike short hair intensely, fine, but your "ultimate proof of bad taste?" comment is over the top.  I don't think that'll win you many fans, even here.


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missrini View Drop Down
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Posted: Apr 13, 2006 at 9:47pm
Agree with Dave....just because we all love long hair here, it doesn't mean that others who choose to have short hair have bad taste. I appreciate and admire some short hair styles, it's just not something I want for myself.  Everyone has the freedom to choose
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