High Lift Blonde Haircolors

Hi Everyone-

well nevermind, I guess I was mistaken...haha.  No one here has any idea what I am talking about. I will try to experiment some more.

Hi Sophia,

Double 40 & HL on my 6-7 Gold/blonde natural hair is still not enough to really give an ash look, even with the many brands of ash testing & putting on double 40 & HL TWO TIMES (on swatch experiments) the color may look "lighter" but still will possibly fade brassy or just be more warm and less vibrant than my original color.  I agree with karen_s , if you get to try some clippings or swatches of your hair & see how lifting your hair gently with bleach & 20,25 vol works & gently tone to achieve the cool results you wish for.  Goodluck.  You will notice many use a blonding creme or agent(bleach) when foiling or lifting for toning, glossing.  L0real has high lifts for dark color level hair,  but I have no idea what they do & somehow on the website the few colors just don't look good.

*This is long!* Great advice from previous posters. Believe me, I know the frustrations of finding the right High Lift blonde! I used to do a two-tone thing, high lifting my roots and covering the resulting brassiness with bleach highlights. It looked pretty good, but there was still warmth there.

Many thanks for all the the replies !!!!...yes I sort of suspected I was going in the wrong direction but really, really did not want to resort to bleaching ( once again ).  And I think my main concern is with the overlap between what has already been high-lifted and the bleaching.  It is a very time consuming and delicate process....especially for someone to do at home.

Sophia: if you do go the bleaching route, don't forget to apply a heavy conditioner to all your previous highlights so they don't get affected by any stray bleach. Good luck!

Hey- just thought I would update you...I did try the bleach route however I screwed up ( totally my fault) because I used Kaleidecolors by Clairol and did not heat it effectively. The application was not too good,l either. But I had no one to help me.

I bleached and then re-bleached. Finally I just gave up and decided to even out the splotches with an all-over color. I went to Sally's and got Second Nature 1/2 medium ash blonde and 1/2 dark neutral blonde, vol 20 for 45 minutes.

Well, it came out rather dark, almost a light brown. However, I knew it would lighten up after a few shampoos.

Now, I have a nice medium ash blonde all-over color, with just a subtle hint of highlights from the previous lightening. Basically, I really like my new hair. It's just ironic that only by screwing it up, did I end up with something I really like now !   Oh, the joys of haircolor ;-)

WHen your hair is in good condition maybe Instant whip for Gentle lightening (With Activator(s)) or Wellite or even Born Blonde (Haven't tried this but many use this one for DP blondes!) & 7th Stage is for the most resistant hair

http://www.thecreativestudio.com/files/infoguide/liquid_lighteners.jpg

Idk where I read it but I thought Kaleidocolors was for virgin hair only?? I am very curious about it & if it is pretty

I wonder if Kaleidocolors Blue breaks up the red & Violet does the yellow...hmmm.

Cheers to you getting the right color right now!

Hi Born Blonde, I used the Kaleidecolors because it says you can use it for highlighting, but you are correct it's not to be used on-the-scalp ( which I didn't).....I also used the 'violet' one because it supposedly neutralizes brassy tones ( which it didn't ! ) so I don't think those various colors really mean anything. But maybe it was just me ....lol

Slps..yes the 7th stage, wellite, born blonde are all bleaches that you must mix with developer ( peroxide- volume 10,20,30 ) to make it lift dark hair for bleaching. Tints are different because they both lift ( not as drastically, only about 3 levels ) and DEPOSIT color at the same time. Bleaches by themselves do NOT put color in your hair, obviously they just remove color.

That's where 'toners' come in - these are gentle colors you can put on top of bleached hair to get the most flattering blonde. Hair that is just bleached and not toned has an ugly, canary yellow look because I read that is the color of the keratin remaining in your hair after bleaching it...most people do not look good with this color :-) This is why people refer to it as 'double processed' because it takes two steps, whereas tints can lift and deposit color in just ONE step...though tints cannot change you from dark brown to lightest blonde in one step..that's more than 3 levels. You have to bleach and tone for that.

Of course, everyone feel free to correct me on these statements, in case I missed something. This is just basic info......

Sophia: that's excellent info! You're right on the money.

Fakeizme :  How right you are !!!

Rule of thumb :color does not lift color. For natural looking harmonious hair color never lift more than Two levels + highlights

To get a virgin head of hair from dark ash brown to a medium ash blonde:

you have 2 choices.First choice would be to lift to a light ash brown using a permanent light ash brown color (green base) roots to ends with 20 vol developer.This would bring you to a light ash brown. Then you would highlight to a beige med blonde using a lightener(basic white).The second choice would be to heavy highlight using a lightener with a blue base.Bring highlights up to a beige color. If highlights come up to yellow, tone with semi perm color.  

To get a non- virgin head of hair from a dark ash brown to a medium ash blonde  the only thing you can do is  highlight using powder lightener such as basic white to a beige blonde and or tone using semi permanent .But before you go and use "bleach"

try this: Get a bottle of metalex. drench your hair from roots to ends.cap it.
wait about 30 minutes.rinse and do it again.This will get out a lot of color build-up.you can even add a cap or so of 20 vol developer to it to remove semi permanent color.(THIS IS NOT A COLOR STRIPPER)will not lighten hair.It just gets out a lot of crap that shampoo does not.It will also condition and prepare any damaged hair for chemical processes such as highlighting with "bleach"
 hope I could help

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Yes! Good points fakeizme & nycolorist.  Metalex, & I like the Idea of using the *Basic White 2* & Tone with Creme Toner 301 or Demi or semi...But the Creme toners smell GOOD & tone highlights nicely.   Use them on damp towel dried hair (the bleached peices) so it will soak up the color with 20 vol.

I messed with a WEIRD Wella 12P-T Blue-Violet (more like GREEN)... It is just too dark & too tricky.

I need a good porosity equalizer... Any Suggestions??? Idk much of regenal or matrix aloxxi. I have the former however.

aha... this is easy... rules of colour. if you are a natural level 4 and down developer will give you one less level of lift. so if you want to be a medium ash blonde from a level 4 you need to get to a 7.1. which is 3 levels of lift.

but because the rules of colour say that FROM a level 4 AND down you get one level less of lift you will think of the necassary lift as 4levels.

easiest way to get there is pre lighten with a 20vol liquid developer and bleach powder. this will leave you with a level 5.

now to get to a cool medium blonde 7.1 you need to consider your underlying pigment. this will be a red in level 5. to neutralise that red pigment you need green. the underlying pigment of a 7 is green.

so a 7.1 should be suitable to get you to a medium ash blonde.

so mix 7.1 with a 20vol developer and leave on as stated on manufacturers instructions

40v developers can only be used with highlifting blondes and not with normal colour