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lovetocolor View Drop Down
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 at 9:47am
Cry  well, i got bored yesterday and decided to put some bleach on the hair and lighten it and then put shades eq on....well the last 3 inches of my hair feel horrid...i put all kinds of stuff on it but i am wondering....do i have to get that cut off, or can something make it feel like hair and not a brillo pad????

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Hal View Drop Down
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 at 9:47am
How long is your hair?

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Susan W View Drop Down
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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 at 9:47am
When I lightened mine (tons of times) to get it white, it felt pretty damaged.  I used a heavy silicone conditioner to get it feeling and looking better again. The one I used was pantene because it had the most cones at the time (maybe it still does, haven't checked). It took about 3 or 4 times of using it before it was noticeably better (so if you condition a couple of times you can probably speed that up). It won't fix the problem but it will certainly hide it better than no cones.  Be aware that cones can interfere with any future dyeing you do.  I 've personally never had any problem going whiter over coney hair, and that's all I've tried, but I've heard others have had trouble so I suppose it depends on all the details how it will work for you. (Some recommend clarifying the cones off before dyeing, but its going to make your hair brittle and strawlike to do that so I'm not sure that's a good idea on very damaged hair either...probably not doing anything more to the very damaged part at least is going to be better than trying chemicals on it again anyway. 

If you've heard of silicone buildup, yes, that can cause your hair to break off after a few months or years, but right now it sounds like your hair is in a worse state that that would cause and will be needing trims anyway to keep the splits away, so its probably better to worry more about protecting your less damaged hair from buildup, but not worrying about it on the very damaged hair.  (In other words, only use the cones on the most damaged parts / the ends).


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Posted: Jul 11, 2007 at 9:47am
ok, my hair is shoulder length...i had to get 3 inches cut off because of the exact dumb thing i did this time....susan, i did put some cone in my hair...this is what i did...i put redken no frizz on and left it for 1 hr, then sprayed the phix on and then rinsed...then i put this redken for curly hair (which i have) and left it for about 30 mins or so...i then put some leave in paul mitchell, cone, and noodle head...it looks alright as long as i don't touch it much or try to comb it...that is when the brillo pad effect comes upon me....i always had great hair and now i have done this because i just can't leave it alone...i bet i do now...let me know if i probably need to get it cut off....about 3 inches when combed out looks like witches hair...bad bad.  i am keeping moisture moisture on my hair but i am scared...scared of having short hair.

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Posted: Jul 12, 2007 at 9:47am
Well, I can't really let you know, only you can see it up close so you will have to decide when and if it needs any trim.  You don't want splits, because those climb the hair.  If you don't have splits you can probably put off a trim until it grows more.  If you do have splits, but not too bad, you may be able to get away with just trimming off a half inch a month.  This way it stays the same length until all the damage is off.

You can also try 'dusting', or just cutting splits off of each individual hair right above the split.  Be careful not to cut too high if you do that or you'll get too many short ones sticking out around your head.  That will remove them and avoid you needing a trim, but if you do have splits, and a lot of them, that will be a long and annoying thing to do, cutting them all individually (this method is mostly used by those who don't use chemicals, so don't have that many splits).

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Posted: Jul 12, 2007 at 9:47am
hi susan..thank you for all the info...i left my hair alone yesterday and it just stayed real curly and because of the stuff on it, it looked shiny....my hair feels much better today....i think i will have like 1/2 inch cut off or so....going to go to eric fishers and have one of the master stylists cut what needs to be gone from my hair....but i have got to say, it feels lots better....maybe i will just wear it curly until it grows some more....but you sure do have good ideas....you sound like a pro...are you?  i really, really appriciate your help and advice....messing ones hair up is just scary...and i know better....i know lots lots better than to do what i did.....i am a housewife and oh i don't know....thank you for telling me about the split ends....i will have stylist check for those....i know for sure i will have to get a little trim trim and i need my bangs side cut soooooo......i need one of those doll heads w/hair to mess around with....hopefully when i get in cosmo school some of this obsession will go away before i go the wig route.....thank you again susan.

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Posted: Jul 13, 2007 at 9:47am
aw man this sound like what i just went through!

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Posted: Jul 13, 2007 at 9:47am
ya, i just finished looking at "cute" cuts that are goin gto be above my shoulders...................oy vey.....i am hoping that at least a little point somewhere in back that i missed during my quest that can, if i pull on it a little will maybe touch my shoulder....i thought yesterday i might be able to wait this out....but if i comb or brush, well.....not such a miracle...what did you do eve?  did you hate it?

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Posted: Jul 13, 2007 at 9:47am
hi all...i got the cut and IT LOOKS GOOD....can you believe that?  i would not have tried this normally.....i have had some terrible hair cuts in my life and DID NOT HAVE IT IN ME TO HAVE A BAD HAIR CUT...but wasn't....thanks for the support....we are all on the same page and we love to color our own hair....we're artists....Cool

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Posted: Jul 14, 2007 at 9:47am
eve, what did you do recently?  please please tell me.....i bet it is interesting....give me details.popcorn

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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 at 9:47am
This may not work and you have already spent quite a bit on products but back when my hair was porous on the ends from over coloring I used Bonacure Sealed Ends and it seemed to help at least in the short term. Its non greasy and seems to do something to the ends to at least take away that horrid feeling and makes them pliable again.

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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 at 9:47am
hahaha i  turned my hair brown  and it started to melt!  now i have to start all over again with the heart ache and misery of crapy hairConfused
 i also been trying to keep a hair jornal on a water only wash experiment but that is slow going as well

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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 at 9:47am
There is always extensions lol. I wear them now and they are fantastic! You gotta get nice hair though that matches your texture. I just have 3 sewn in wefts. The added benefit to them is it kind of gives your natural hair a rest and it will keep growing with them in.

With weaves you only want to do a full shampoo once a week but you can wash your top (natural hair) if it gets oily and just clip back the extensions which dont get dirty as fast.

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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 at 9:47am
 yes i was really looking into getting clip in extentions,
i was thinking bout using that sassy collection hair from sally's(like $30 bucks a pack 18")  just to have something until i can afford something nice and just making my own or have my crafty sister do it for me,
sally's also has euronext with alotta ppl have said were  decent but they only come in 14 "

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Posted: Jul 22, 2007 at 9:47am
Yeah clip ins are fun and good in the short term. Its nice to be able to take them in and out and the versility.

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Susan W View Drop Down
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Posted: Jul 23, 2007 at 9:47am
lovetocolor, no I'm not a pro, I just enjoy the art!  I'm so glad to hear it worked out for you!

Eve, your hair looks really nice brown if its currently like your avatar, very flattering on you!


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Posted: Jul 23, 2007 at 9:47am
aw thanksEmbarrassed i got in to one of my color moods and volia!  Its brown with a triple brewed coffee rinse on top it came out really pretty and shiney. 

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Posted: Jul 23, 2007 at 9:47am
Well its very flattering, you look like a model!


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Posted: Jul 23, 2007 at 9:47am
hey eve!  your hair looks GOOD!  did you say it felt bad?  that loreal moisturizing stuff in the tub for very dry, over processed hair is really good....and you used a coffee rinse?  i have heard of using tea...coffee, that is interesting....i knew what ever you did would be...know what you mean by getting in a coloring mood.....i have to stay away from dye until a month from now....i have a cabinet full of shades eq and let me tell you, it is hard to stay out of it....i did try a little on my temples to see what my color mix looked like....jeez, i am hooked....i agree w/you that going into rehab and keeping me there would be the only way i would not color my hair too....i love it....i don't however love getting my hair cut because i have over dyed soooo much....i am glad you like your hair...it looks exotic and really becoming on you.  are you dark haired naturally?

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Posted: Jul 23, 2007 at 9:47am

hi krimsa, thank you for the advice....listen that bonacure stuff is amazing...i bought the shampoo and with one wash my hair felt better....i am using that shampoo and the conditioner and lots of other things....hee....i somehow got myself into the professional only store that sells wonderful things at a bargain cost....the mark up is something else....but that is how i got all my stuff.....i have a closet full of shades eq color and redken chemistry system and of course the bonacure...i have been hearing alot of good things about schwartzkopf line....i could not believe how good it is.  now i regret that when i was posing (yes, it is embarassing, a little) as a cosmotologist that i didn't buy more!!  what i did was i had my sales slip from when i had my friend (who is a pro) go in and get me stuff....well, i wanted more and was too embarassed to ask her again, so............anyhoo, thanks for all the advice....there are some people on this board that know more than pros....i love this community!!! 


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Posted: Jul 23, 2007 at 9:47am
hey eve, i just reread your entry....you said your hair STARTED TO MELT when you went dark.....details details....must know what happened and how is your diary going of water only????  whatcha doing with the water thing?  i am sorry, i am sitting here with a smile on my face just wondering about the melting and the water diary....i live in wichita, kansas....i think we would hang out if we knew each other.....oh wait!  we'd prabably be hairless.....you are so funny....looking forward to your next entry....melting hair..yikes!!!!

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Posted: Jul 23, 2007 at 9:47am
yeah stinkin crapAngry
my  bleached hair was destroyed to begin with totally dried out and sorry for it's self looking.
I remember when i was like 18 and not a mom it was so much easier to do things  like touch up roots on blonde hair  all the time, now i just don't have the patients or the time or money to  do the up keepCry maybe when she is older i can go back to it.

my roots grow ridiculously fast like over a 1/2 a month..
  Anywho, i was in the middle of root touch up time (nap time)  when i got fed up i just was like i want something differnt....ut-o! i was bit by the hair color bug againLOL i got this bightLamp to go to a medium brunett. Well i did protien treatments and all that great stuff and bought a box of hair dye in medium brown well as it is deloping my hair turns to it felt like molases it was sticky and not good feeling so i hurry and washed it out only to find the back part of my hair were i had it all piled up had melt and snapped offErmm

ok now my hair is half gray and the top is brown red and damn it all if i don't have a wedding to go to in like a week! i am thinking crap crap crap.

 so i put on my trusty ball cap(a staple in my hair suppliesWink) an headed to get some semi dye. now at my local 24 hour store they lack a  varity of anything, so i grabed what ever i could find it happen to be warm medium brown or something long like that.  I get home and put it on( it is now like almost 2am) i rinse my hair and surprise surprise it  came out really dark almost like a  brown copper color. A far cry form medium brown. But right now that is the least of my probblems i can live  with it.

 I had to have alot trimmed off my hair and had lots of layers put in to try and match the big patch job in the back of my hair. 

 well now my split ends have their own split ends. and them little buggers drive me nuts my hair is now cut to shoulder length and i can look out the corner of my eye and see the horrible condition my hair is in.

 the wedding went good my hair was done real cute i did twist in the front and curls inthe back and pined those up. i hide the dead dead eneds really good.



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Posted: Jul 23, 2007 at 9:47am
Man i am just full of it today my soap is slow going and it is  that time of day were i don't feel like doing anything. lol

back to my hair:
 after lots of products and recommendations from everyone on here i finally found the golden ticket that is making my hair return to a eye pleasing statebarmy
neutrogena triple moisture hair mask

 it said use it once a week but my hair soaked it up and felt alot better after the first time using it, i followed the next day usieng it and just leaving it on ALLDAY  letting it dry up and washed it at night, man  my hair is even better feeling, well today i did it for 20 mins and followed using nexxus humctress and man i have to say i found it! I finally found what works for my hair!!cheer after damn near 6 months of being depressed and self conscious  i put on my shorty shorts  popped my daughter  in the car and headed off to the mall just becaues i could do so without havening to have a panic attack . I felt like that woman in the new sun silk comerical the one with the neck brace. I could have tossed my head around all day i was so proudLOL
 
 now i am focused on letting my hair grow back  to boobie length.
I still have split ends but i have been snipping the buggers off as i see them.
water only wash got set back to other day b/c i HAD to do a emergencc treatment My splits  were sheding so bad going down the road with the windows down brushin my hair my daughter kept getting  them blown on her in the back seatShocked. ohh gotta go last 10 mins of days of our lives is on next up passions! mn i am gonna miss it when it goes to direct tv. LOL we don't even have cable Geek
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Posted: Jul 23, 2007 at 9:47am
hee hee.....oh, i enjoyed your saga....oh man eve.....melting molassas hair!!???  oh you poor thing....i bet you were freaked and panicky...i am so glad that you feel good about yourself again....bad hair can ruin a good 3 month run....i have always been into my hair.....i was at one point washing my hair, if you will, with conditioner....that worked out pretty good....neutrogena triple moisture cond??  who'd of known?  il wish i could give you some of my bonacure shampoo and use my redken chemistry system in strength and for frizz.....man, when i tell ya i impersonated a cosmo and bought up, i mean it....want more want more....but i cannot do that again....would be embarassing if i got caught.....but i did pick up quite a load.....my closet looks like a small peels , the state cosmotology store.....this is kind of funny, my husband opened my closet one time and a full (large) bottle of 20 v fell off the shelf and hit him in the head....he started his investagation right after that and was questioned about my little closet.....oh well, it was true i got them cheap....the mark up eve is crazy crazy...opps....hubby home, must start din din...he is working 7 days a week doing 11hr days....he works at spirit....he makes airplanes...hee.  tlka to yoi ;later

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Posted: Jul 23, 2007 at 9:47am
"man, when i tell ya i impersonated a cosmo and bought up, i mean it....want more want more....but i cannot do that again....would be embarassing if i got caught.....but i did pick up quite a load"
LOLlolabove thats great!
i belive it (about the markup) they do it everywere

oh that sounds neat! like they assebmle airplanes?
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