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Posted: Jan 04, 2006 at 11:22am

Barack Obama wowed them with his speech during the Democratic National Convention. Not only is he likely to make history as only the third black U.S. senator elected since Reconstruction; pundits already are touting his presidential possibilities. With his probable electoral victory this November, Sen. Obama will join a number of African-American men who are making a real mark on American culture.

Obama's stage is politics. Black men are exerting their influence in every other nook and cranny of American life


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Again, why are Black MEN going to jail? Why are they being ignored while siblings in the same family advance and have more employment oppurtunities. Why?

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And why do those who have advanced, ignore issues that affect their own brother, father, and even their own SON?????????

 


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Posted: Jan 04, 2006 at 11:22am
i dont know why

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Can you say Willie Lynch!

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This is what is stated in the dictionary>>>>>>>>

 The American Heritage
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Don't forget you must pitch the old black VS. the young black males, and the young black male against the old black male. You must use the dark skinned slaves VS. the light skin slaves. You must use the female VS the male, and the male VS, the female. You must always have your servants and OVERSEERS (House Niggas) distrust all blacks, but it is necessary that your slaves trust and depend on us.


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Why are more than 50 percent of African-American males between the ages of 16 and 22 out of work and not in school single independent mothers if you are doing such a good job at being a father and mother?

Why are 87 percent of juvenile parolees African-American males if you are doing such a good job at being a father and mother?

Why are 60 percent of adult parolees African-American males if you are doing such a good job at being a father and mother?

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Why?  Because nothing can replace the fathers that walked away from the situation.  All a woman can do in that situation is the best she can.  If that is not enough  then those statistics are the price we all have to pay for a man walking away from his responsibility.  Raising a child takes two.  No matter how independent a woman is, nothing can fill the gap of the missing dad.  Nothing.  BiggMike I really don't think a woman can be blamed for those statistics.  I don't think it was her raising in and of itself that resulted in this, but rather the absence of the male.  That absence says alot more to a child than what the mother tried to do in spite of it.  Even in homes broken by divorce, it is a known fact that the absence of one parent has a profound effect of on the children.  Just my humble 2 and a half cents


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Why?????? Women are the nutures of life.

THE BREAKING PROCESS OF THE AFRICAN WOMAN Take the female and run a series of tests on her to see if she will submit to you desires willingly. Test her in every way, because she is the most important factor for good economic. If she shows any signs of resistance in submitting completely to your will, do not hesitate to use the bull whip on her to extract that last bit of bitch out of her. Take care not to kill her, for in doing so, you spoil good economics. When in complete submission, she will train her offsprings in the early years to submit to labor when they become of age. Understanding is the best thing. (she will teach her female offsprings to hate the male and she will not submit to him as she should BY NATURE)

Therefore, we shall go deeper into this area of the subject matter concerning what we have produced here in this breaking of the female nigger. We have reversed the relationship. In her natural uncivilized state she would have a strong dependency on the uncivilized nigger male, and she would have a limited protective dependency toward her independent male offspring and would raise female offspring to be dependent like her. Nature had provided for this type of balance. We reversed nature by burning and dependent like her. Nature had provided for this type of balance. We reversed nature by burning and pulling one civilized nigger apart and bull whipping the other to the point of death--all in her presence. By her being left alone, unprotected, with male image destroyed, the ordeal cased her to move from her psychological dependent state to a frozen independent state. In this frozen psychological state of independence she will raise her male and female offspring in reversed roles. For fear of the YOUNG MALE'S life she will psychologically train him to be mentally weak and dependent but physically strong. Because she has become psychologically independent, she will train her female offspring to be psychological independent as well. What have you got? You've got the nigger woman out front and the nigger man behind and scared. This is perfect situation for sound sleep and economics. Before the breaking process, we had to be alert and on guard at all times. Now we can sleep soundly, for out of frozen fear, his woman stand guard for us. He cannot get past her early infant slave molding process. He is good tool, now ready to be tied to the horse at a tender age. By the time a nigger boy reaches the age of sixteen, he is soundly broken in and ready for a long life of sound and efficient work and the reproduction of a unit of good labor force.

Continually, through the breaking of uncivilized savage niggers, by throwing the nigger female savage into a frozen psychological state of independency, by killing the protective male image, and by creating a submissive dependent mind of the nigger male slave, we have created an orbiting cycle that turns on its own axis forever, unless a phenomenon occurs and re shifts the positions of the male and female savages. We show what we mean by example. We breed two nigger males with two nigger females. Then we take the nigger males away from them and keep them moving and working. Say the nigger female bear a nigger female and the other bears a nigger male. both nigger females, being without influence of the nigger male image, frozen with an independent psychology, will raise him to be mentally dependent and weak, but physically strong...in other words, body over mind. We will mate and breed them and continue the cycle. That is good, sound, and long range comprehensive planning.


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And also because Black women follow white women like house niggas, not like Black men who tell White Men and White women to go to hell with all that Eurocentric foolishness.

So who really follows and who really leads?

If our so called Independent women where so independent, they would not follow White women like a flock of birds. It's true!

Who bleaches their skin to look like white women?

Who Straightens their hair to look white?

Who hates their own African Culture more than a Black woman?

Who raises African American own boys to be weak minded men and teach their daughter to hate males?

Who continue to cry about childsupport when they know Black men are at a greater disadvantage than them?

Who has more freedom than Black Men but does nothing but go shopping for fake hair to look more like white women?

Who files for divorce and deny the fathers access to their children more than any other woman in the world?

Who raise homos and lesbians in their home let them dress and act like fatherless bastards in school and in public but claim to be doing a good job?

Who refuses to accept that there are more women than men and that there is more competion for men than there is for women?

Who refuses to see that the same people they follow is destroying their MEN with discrimination and gender bias?

Who FIGHTS TO KEEP OUR AFRICAN CULTURE ALIVE WHILE THE OTHER SELLS IT OUT BY REFUSING TO SUBMIT AND FOLLOW THE REAL LEADERS?

COULD IT BE THE FEMALE HOUSE NIGGA WHO THEY HAVE BROKEN LIKE A SLAVE.  DEGREE OR NO DEGREE, JOB OR NO JOB, WEAVE OR NO WEAVE, BLEACHED OUT SKIN OR JET BLACK SKIN. UNTIL OUR BLACK WOMEN LEARN TO STOP FOLLOWING WHITE PEOPLE AND LEARN TO BE TRUE AND LOYAL TO THEIR OWN MEN AND OWN CULTURE......................... CAUSE REAL MEN DON'T FOLLOW THEY LEAD. GET YOU A REAL MAN.

 

 

 

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I donot see anyone following anyone!  And I for one resent the comments that are made on here!  What does this have to do with hair?  Just wondering! Debbie


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Who bleaches their skin to look like white women?

Not me. or any sista in my vicinity

Who Straightens their hair to look white?

Not me.  I love the way I look.  And since when did straight hair become for whites only?   Man you give them waaaaay too much credit.  So its wrong to change up your look?  What about y'all and those waves... I've enver seen Africans roaming around with waves flat on their head.  are y'all trying to be Samoan or some other race with waves that lay down?  If you really want to be "as black as black can be" just let it grow up and out like nature intended.! Come on now Bigg Mike are you fa real? I guess growing out your hair long is considered "being white" too b/c we are supposed to be stuck with short, broken off hair riiiiight?

  

Who hates their own African Culture more than a Black woman?

???? what ????  generalizations like these don't help the discussion along

Who raises African American own boys to be weak minded men and teach their daughter to hate males?

Not me.  I'm not man hating.  My mother didn't teach me to be man hating.  If I did become a man hater it would probably be because of the father who walked out on us when I was 11.  But I don't hate him or any other black man.  I have a son and his father and I are teaching him to be strong.  We are teaching our daughter to have the same strength.  Teaching weakness and submission to either gender is just plain wrong in my opinion.  The US consititution doesn't say All men are created equal except women who should be dependent and lag somewhere behind.  I am alll for the strong black man, but having a strong black man does not nessecitate having a weak black woman.  Are you saying he can only be strong in our weakness and that our strength somehow diminishes him?

Who continue to cry about childsupport when they know Black men are at a greater disadvantage than them?

There would be no need for childsupport if families would stay together.  And since it is 9 times out of 10 the man walking away from the family unit what do you want her to do?  You want a woman to be dependent, but dependent on what- the men who ran away? 

Who has more freedom than Black Men but does nothing but go shopping for fake hair to look more like white women?

Ummm... I'm not a weave wearer so we'll leave that one alone.

Who files for divorce and deny the fathers access to their children more than any other woman in the world?

Where are you getting these facts from?  Are they facts?  I would never deny my husband (well ex if we were divorced) to right to see his children. 

Who raise homos and lesbians in their home let them dress and act like fatherless bastards in school and in public but claim to be doing a good job?

Boy, you have it out for us don't ya? Where did you see this becoming an epidemic. 

Who refuses to accept that there are more women than men and that there is more competion for men than there is for women?

I can accept that.  I'm married so its of no consequence to me now.

Who refuses to see that the same people they follow is destroying their MEN with discrimination and gender bias?

I don't follow anyone.  I do what I want to do when I want to do it.  thats why I dont' understand what the big issue is here.  Why can't men and women stop pointing fingers and singing woe is me and stand up and DO SOMETHING.  Stop saying-- he's keeping us down...they are discriminating... its not right...its not fair... STAND UP and take responsibility for you and your family.  Do right by you and your family and no one- regardless of their race or the power you give them in your mind can stop you.  You are empowering them by sitting around trying to figure out who to blame next.  If things aren't going right in my life, I place the blame on ME.  I don't say... well I was born black, my dad walked out on me, my mom didn't know how to raise me... stop being the victim.  That is what I look for in a man-- is he strong?  It is easy to play victim.  we all can play victim.  Its time to stand up and move on. 

CAUSE REAL MEN DON'T FOLLOW THEY LEAD. GET YOU A REAL MAN.

I agree.  and I do have a man.  A good man.  A rare man.


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dang that was a long post

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I don't know about that.

Who's feared more, Black MEN or Black women?

White people accept Black women more because Black women accept Eurocentric Ideology more.

I think Black MEN are feared more because we are reject it the most. That's why we also reject Eurocentric ideology more too. Maybe if we were respected and our own culture accepted more, we MIGHT be more willing to accept Eurocentric culture more.


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you really have some pretty interesting views BiggMike though I am having a hard time with some of them-- but I guess its nice hearing from a man with convictions. You are really concerned and that is refreshing to see.

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Thank you, I care about Young Black men more than their own mothers do!

Sister you have to understand, Black women have more power and more freedom than Black Men. They have this freedom because white people know they will not do anything about racism like Black MEN will. They know Black women will only look out for themselves and not Black MEN. They give them freedom and Black women go shopping or attacking Black men for not having the same freedom. This does not help our race and culture, it destroys it.  This is a Fact. 

So before Black women go for my throat, they need to ask themselves........

Do I do everything in MY POWER with the Freedom that white people give me, to make sure my fatherless children know their own African Culture?

Do I teach my daughters to be so independent that she does NOT have the qualities of a good mother and a good wife?

Do I teach my fatherless sons anything other than self hatred and homosexual bahaviors by showing them that my female independence is more important than submitting my self to a man and learning how to follow them LIKE THE HOLY BIBLE, ISLAM, and PRETTY MUCH THE LARGE MAJORITY OF RELIGIONS SAY FOR ME TO DO?

Do I compete with my childrens father and everybody elses father for EMPLOYMENT that they can have but don't because my independence is more important than keeping families together?

Do I have any African pride or do I just say that I do so I can appear to be a Real African Queen in front of other Black people, but behind close doors I sell out every chance I get?

Above all, am I really marriage material or is my career and degrees more important? I think the degrees and careers are more important.

Why Biggmike?

 


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Who bleaches their skin to look like white women?

Not me. or any sista in my vicinity

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Wrong, America is full of Black Women with Bleached out skin. Turn on a TV or just go to White Corporate America, they are there and getting paid for their willingness to sell out and follow.


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Who Straightens their hair to look white?

Not me.  I love the way I look.  And since when did straight hair become for whites only?   Man you give them waaaaay too much credit.  So its wrong to change up your look?  What about y'all and those waves... I've enver seen Africans roaming around with waves flat on their head.  are y'all trying to be Samoan or some other race with waves that lay down?  If you really want to be "as black as black can be" just let it grow up and out like nature intended.! Come on now Bigg Mike are you fa real? I guess growing out your hair long is considered "being white" too b/c we are supposed to be stuck with short, broken off hair riiiiight?

  

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I never said you had those qualities, you assumed I was talking about you. I'm talking about Black women who have no African Pride. If the shoe fits........

There is nothing wrong with letting your hair grow out are having waves. Black men do not have to Perm, Iron, or put any chemicals in their hair to have waves. Waves come natural for many Black men like my self. All I have to do is brush. Black women put conks (perms) in their hair to give it that white look. This is why so many of the sisters are bald-headed under those horse tail weaves. They try waaaaay to hard to cross over and Black men do not like this. Some Black women do have naturally straight hair, but most do not. Asians make millions of dollars each year from sister want to cross over. Slave mentality. That's a Fact!


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Who hates their own African Culture more than a Black woman?

???? what ????  generalizations like these don't help the discussion along

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If they don't hate their own African culture, why do so many of them refuse to submit and respect good Black Men. No culture and no pride.

If they don't hate their own African culture, why do so many of them go against Black MEN once white people give them jobs and a bit of independence. They hate their own culture and want to be like white people.

 


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Who raises African American boys to be weak minded men and teach their daughter to hate males?

Not me.  I'm not man hating.  My mother didn't teach me to be man hating.  If I did become a man hater it would probably be because of the father who walked out on us when I was 11.  But I don't hate him or any other black man.  I have a son and his father and I are teaching him to be strong.  We are teaching our daughter to have the same strength.  Teaching weakness and submission to either gender is just plain wrong in my opinion.  The US consititution doesn't say All men are created equal except women who should be dependent and lag somewhere behind.  I am alll for the strong black man, but having a strong black man does not nessecitate having a weak black woman.  Are you saying he can only be strong in our weakness and that our strength somehow diminishes him?

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Once again, I never said you did this. For all I know you and your husband teach your children well.

Teaching weakness and submission to either gender is just plain wrong in my opinion. 

One of them will have to lead and one will have to follow. What does the Bible say? What does YOUR African Culture say?

We all know what white people and their Eurocentric culture encourage Black women to do.  And they follow Eurocentric values. Fact!


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Who continue to cry about childsupport when they know Black men are at a greater disadvantage than them?

There would be no need for childsupport if families would stay together.  And since it is 9 times out of 10 the man walking away from the family unit what do you want her to do?  You want a woman to be dependent, but dependent on what- the men who ran away? 

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You ever considered that being overly aggressive,

talking too damn loud and too much, cooking nothing but fried foods or pork (If they know how to cook), or going out to eat all time, debating with a brother about every damn thing, and not knowing how to SUBMIT would force him to leave for a female that is little less competative and less combative (For peace of mind in his own home, the only place that white people do not control, now that's changed haven't sister). 

And lets not talk about WHITE PEOPLE ACCEPTING BLACK WOMEN OVER BLACK MEN, and the fact that Black women refuse to admit this (YOU have not admitted this true yet "sister". Why??????????) 

Oh, and lets not forget about false domestic abuse charges, not knowing how to be quiet when it's time, listening to manless fatherless friends, being materalistic gold diggers and putting money over every thing else including your husband and your African Culture.

You know these are the main reasons for the destruction of the black family, but lets play dumb, white people are watching.

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Who files for divorce and deny the fathers access to their children more than any other woman in the world?

Where are you getting these facts from?  Are they facts?  I would never deny my husband (well ex if we were divorced) to right to see his children. 

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Lady, why are you playing dumb. You know that Black women file for divorce more than any other women in this country. This is a fact and you know this. You are Black/African American? I don't have to give you stats. Ask any ADULT PERSON WHO LIVE IN AMERICA. It not that hard to figure out or prove. It's a FACT!

 I would never deny my husband (well ex if we were divorced) to right to see his children. 

Please, women alway say this while they are with the man. As soon as it's over, they deny relationships.  FACT THAT CAN BE PROVEN AND YOU KNOW IT!

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Who raise homos and lesbians in their home let them dress and act like fatherless bastards in school and in public but claim to be doing a good job?

Boy, you have it out for us don't ya? Where did you see this becoming an epidemic. 

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Where have you been for the last 10 years, Lesbos and homos are going wild in schools. Ask teachers and public school admins., they will tell you young girls are the worst. Ask these young boys on this site, they will tell you. Playing dumb is not working. There are far more Gay teenage girls than boys, but the bottom line is.... They are coming from all these single female households that allow everything under the sun to go on. How can you not see this? You don't want to see it. Older Black Women know and will be the first to admit that it's true. But lets play dumb, we don't want white people to know the truth.


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Who refuses to see that the same people they follow is destroying their MEN with discrimination and gender bias?

I don't follow anyone.  I do what I want to do when I want to do it.  thats why I dont' understand what the big issue is here.  Why can't men and women stop pointing fingers and singing woe is me and stand up and DO SOMETHING.  Stop saying-- he's keeping us down...they are discriminating... its not right...its not fair... STAND UP and take responsibility for you and your family.  Do right by you and your family and no one- regardless of their race or the power you give them in your mind can stop you.  You are empowering them by sitting around trying to figure out who to blame next.  If things aren't going right in my life, I place the blame on ME.  I don't say... well I was born black, my dad walked out on me, my mom didn't know how to raise me... stop being the victim.  That is what I look for in a man-- is he strong?  It is easy to play victim.  we all can play victim.  Its time to stand up and move on. 

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I did not say YOU do this.

You still have not admitted that many Black Women follow White people and their Eurocentric culture in Corporate America, in Universities and and now in everything else too.

Why? You know it's true. Oh, by the way, I did not say YOU follow white people. 

It's easy to say let's not play the victim, when black women are Double Minorities who get hired on jobs for being a woman and being black. And White people love them for being willing to "fit in" so well.

Black Women Play the victom in the Media, in Civil Court, false domestic Violence cases, to their girlfriends, and at the Childsupport office. So who are we kidding? Not me or anybody else who uses their brain for more than ways to get out of telling the TRUTH.


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[QUOTE=BIGGMike][QUOTE=Sistaslick]

Who continue to cry about childsupport when they know Black men are at a greater disadvantage than them?

There would be no need for childsupport if families would stay together.  And since it is 9 times out of 10 the man walking away from the family unit what do you want her to do?  You want a woman to be dependent, but dependent on what- the men who ran away? 

[/QUOTE]  WHITE PEOPLE ACCEPTING BLACK WOMEN OVER BLACK MEN, and the fact that Black women refuse to admit this (which YOU have not admitted yet) . [/QUOTE]

Thats because I don't think its completely true, biggmike  Just think about it most interracial relationships happen between a black man and a white woman, not the other way around.  Now in the business world, you may be on to something there. 

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