Atkins

aaaagggghhhhhh!!!!!!

I am in week 5 of Atkins and I am soooooo grouchy, I think my family is gonna throw me out into the street!!!!

Anyone else experience this? I thought you were suppose to feel good on this diet.

Atkins is the low carb diet, correct? How's it been working for you? Aside from the grouchiness :)

Yeah how is it going? Are you able to move to the next step....a few more veggies...maybe fruit???

And as a side note didn't Dr. Atkens just die?? Or is that something I drempt...? hmmm

He slipped on the ice and eventually died from brain injuries.

REALLY?? Wow, I had no details on it.....wow.

Wow...I didn't know he slipped and fell. How ironic--to work so hard and be such a big face in the health world...and die from a slip. That's life!

I have been in Atkins hell for the past three or four weeks. It is horrible and I can certainly relate to the grouchiness. My husband is on it too but he loves it. He likes all that meat but I feel like all we eat is meat and spinich with an occasional salad thrown in. I cheated today and ate some Cool Whip just for variety. It does seem to be working some but weight is not just "falling off" of me. I didn't weight myself when I started because I thought knowing the truth would depress me to the point that I wouldn't even bother with the diet. My clothes are getting big although the last few days I seem to have plateaued. Since this is a way of life, I am not too sure about my future on it. I really miss bread, pasta, rice, chips, and especially potatoes, not to mention fruit, cereal, and berries. Gosh, just typing this makes me grouchy. Sorry, I don't have any words of wisdom but just know that you are not alone out there.

how can you go without carbs?? ahhh!!! you women are such brave, brave souls! i'd go nuts. i'm a carbaholic...maybe that's why i've plateaued.

Dealing with no carbs is a breeze!!!
My grouchiness is coming from within, like a severe PMS or something. The website says you will go through an "adjustment period". Well, that adjustment is lasting into the 5th week now.

I am doing this diet with co-worker who is 14 years younger than me and you guessed it, the weight is just falling off of her. She has even cheated several times but me? no way have I even cheated once. Everyone comes into the salon and raves how good she looks but me? nada.

See I'm alittle grouchy!!!

I think I am grouchy because this is just so booorrriiinnngggg. There is so much that I cannot eat that sometimes I would just rather skip the whole meal. And of course my husband is losing much faster than me. One reason I went on this with him (he is doing it for medical reasons--I am healthy) is that I will not let him look better than me. That is a huge motivation for me. Otherwise, I don't know.....

I think I would get grumpy too if I went on a diet with someone and they were losing more weight quicker than me. Then again, if someone took my grains and pasta away from me I'd probably have to hurt them!!!

I'm glad that things are working for you but i do not believe that the weight loss from the Atkin's diet is worth the health risks.

If you're not eating carbs at all while on the atkins diet,then you're not following it correctly. You're not allowed empty carbs,which have little or no nutritional value. You shouldn't feel crummy when not eating empty carbs.

At the introduction of this diet you can have 20g carbs a day. It goes up after that.

My doctor, my OBGYN, my endocronologist, and many of my clients in the medical field including doctors, nurse practictioners etc. ALL reccomend and will do the Atkins diet themselves.

The FDA has now endorsed the Atkins diet as of this past May.

If followed correctly, it is a very healthy diet. Once the weight is lost there is a mantaniece plan. That is why it is called a "low carb lifestyle".

Things that i have learned about Atkins, and do Not like:
Atkins wants you to take advantage of being in ketosis while you are on the diet. Ketosis is something that happens during starvation. But most people do not realize that the possible consequences of ketosis are:
muscle breakdown, nausea, dehydration, headaches, irritability, bad breath, kidney problems, and an increase in risk of heart disease.
Ketosis through a pregnancy could lead to death of the baby.
The average american already consumes twice as much protein as is recommended (and that is without even trying) so if you are seeking out high protein foods, you are even more likely to be getting way too much. Too much protein has been associated with kidney disease and osteoporosis.
Before Atkins died, he said he had been following the diet for over 30 years, but his weight was well above the recommendations made in federal guidelines.

Also, LiliBeach, where did you hear about the FDA approving Atkins? Its not that i don't beleive you, its that i would like to be able to read the reasoning they used to say that it is safe and healthy.
Thanks:)

http://atkins.com/helpatkins/faqs/faqlipolysis/index.html

People (and even some ill-informed doctors) often confuse ketosis, which is a perfectly normal metabolic process, with ketoacidosis, which is a life-threatening condition. The latter is the consequence of insulin-deficient subjects having out-of-control blood sugar levels, a condition that can occur as well in alcoholics and people in a state of extreme starvation. Ketosis and ketoacidosis may sound vaguely alike, but the two conditions are virtually polar opposites and can always be distinguished from each other by the fact that the diabetic has been consuming excessive carbohydrates and has high blood sugar, in sharp contrast to the fortunate person who is doing Atkins.

For those of you currently doing Atkins, please give us a status report: how's it going out there?



Elissa
xoxoxoxoxo

[QUOTE=turquoise_girl] Things that i have learned about Atkins, and do Not like:
The average american already consumes twice as much protein as is recommended (and that is without even trying) so if you are seeking out high protein foods, you are even more likely to be getting way too much. Too much protein has been associated with kidney disease and osteoporosis.
Before Atkins died, he said he had been following the diet for over 30 years, but his weight was well above the recommendations made in federal guidelines.

[/QUOTE]

Hi TG, I had just read (although I don't remember where), that the average American, especially Woman, were protien deficient and need up to 60 grams a day. This seems like a lot. I'm a meat eater and I don't get 60 grams a day very often. ???

I'm interested in this subject...Do you remember where you got your information? I would very much like to read up on it. It seems that what you have heard is the opposite of what I have...

Love to know. Thank's

I will not even pretend to know much about Atkins or nutrition in general, but the following link might help with determining protein needs:

http://www.gncproperformance.com/news_trends/trends/sk_protein_power.asp

One point in it I found particularly salient: "If you eat more calories than you need in a day, even if they are protein calories, you will still store the extra calories as fat."

sorry, slight faux pas.

It was the New England Journal of Medicine.

Sophie said:
[QUOTE]i TG, I had just read (although I don't remember where), that the average American, especially Woman, were protien deficient and need up to 60 grams a day. This seems like a lot. I'm a meat eater and I don't get 60 grams a day very often. ???
I'm interested in this subject...Do you remember where you got your information? I would very much like to read up on it. It seems that what you have heard is the opposite of what I have...
Love to know. Thank's [/QUOTE]

Thanks for questioning back, i like it when people give me a challenge...:)

Here is some of the info, with sources:
According to THE VEGETARIAN HANDBOOK by GARY NULL, 1996-
"Animal protein...is where the problems of excess protein begin. First, a typical U.S. diet...can add up to over 200 grams of protein, or about four times higher than the highest recommended requirements."

According to FOOD REVOLUTION: How Your Diet Can Help Save Your Life And The World by JOHN ROBBINS-
"Protein in human mother's breast milk(as percentage of total calories):
5 percent
Human minimum protein requirement(according to the World Health Organization): 5 percent of total calories
US recommended Dietary Allowance for adult protein intake: 10 percent of total calories
World Health Organization international guidelines for optimum protein intake: 10-15 percent of calories"

This means that if you are supposed to consume 2,000 calories, you could get about 35 grams of protein and be within healthy limits...is that correct or have i done the math wrong? I'm bad with math...:)

According to THE VEGETARIAN WAY by VIRGINIA MESSINA, MPH, RD, and MARK MESSINA, PHD-
"When calories are adequate, protein deficiency is virtually nonexistent. This is because protein is so abundant in the food supply. Grains, vegetables, beans, nuts, and seeds are all rich in protein. Only fats and alcohol are lacking in this nutrient. In underdeveloped countries, protein deficiency is sometimes seen, but it is nearly always due to a lack of adequate amounts of foods, not to the use of low-protein foods."
"We think it is a good idea for all people to strive to meet the RDA. It isn't too difficult to do this, as the average American male consumes about twice as much protein as is needed."

And then, according to my own findings:
I am a vegan, i consume no eggs, milk, meat, cheese, etc: all things that are generally high in protein, but i have used online food analyzers(you type in everything that you eat and then it tells you about how much cholesterol, vitamins, etc, you got.) I am easily able to attain about 50 grams each day even without consuming a lot of nuts or beans or anything like that.

Ok, well, i've typed for so long, that i really have to get off the computer, but i'll come back later, maybe with some more info.
ALSO:
I really don't know about stuff like this- but if i am not suppose to taking direct quotes from other people's books, please tell me and i will ask for someone to remove it.
THANKS:)

Sophie said:
[QUOTE]i TG, I had just read (although I don't remember where), that the average American, especially Woman, were protien deficient and need up to 60 grams a day. This seems like a lot. I'm a meat eater and I don't get 60 grams a day very often. ???
I'm interested in this subject...Do you remember where you got your information? I would very much like to read up on it. It seems that what you have heard is the opposite of what I have...
Love to know. Thank's [/QUOTE]

Thanks for questioning back, i like it when people give me a challenge...:)

Here is some of the info, with sources:
According to THE VEGETARIAN HANDBOOK by GARY NULL, 1996-
"Animal protein...is where the problems of excess protein begin. First, a typical U.S. diet...can add up to over 200 grams of protein, or about four times higher than the highest recommended requirements."

According to FOOD REVOLUTION: How Your Diet Can Help Save Your Life And The World by JOHN ROBBINS-
"Protein in human mother's breast milk(as percentage of total calories):
5 percent
Human minimum protein requirement(according to the World Health Organization): 5 percent of total calories
US recommended Dietary Allowance for adult protein intake: 10 percent of total calories
World Health Organization international guidelines for optimum protein intake: 10-15 percent of calories"

This means that if you are supposed to consume 2,000 calories, you could get about 35 grams of protein and be within healthy limits...is that correct or have i done the math wrong? I'm bad with math...:)

According to THE VEGETARIAN WAY by VIRGINIA MESSINA, MPH, RD, and MARK MESSINA, PHD-
"When calories are adequate, protein deficiency is virtually nonexistent. This is because protein is so abundant in the food supply. Grains, vegetables, beans, nuts, and seeds are all rich in protein. Only fats and alcohol are lacking in this nutrient. In underdeveloped countries, protein deficiency is sometimes seen, but it is nearly always due to a lack of adequate amounts of foods, not to the use of low-protein foods."
"We think it is a good idea for all people to strive to meet the RDA. It isn't too difficult to do this, as the average American male consumes about twice as much protein as is needed."

And then, according to my own findings:
I am a vegan, i consume no eggs, milk, meat, cheese, etc: all things that are generally high in protein, but i have used online food analyzers(you type in everything that you eat and then it tells you about how much cholesterol, vitamins, etc, you got.) I am easily able to attain about 50 grams each day even without consuming a lot of nuts or beans or anything like that.

Ok, well, i've typed for so long, that i really have to get off the computer, but i'll come back later, maybe with some more info.
ALSO:
I really don't know about stuff like this- but if i am not suppose to taking direct quotes from other people's books, please tell me and i will ask for someone to remove it.
THANKS:)

oops, crud, sorry for posting twice:)

a website with lots of info is:
atkinsdietalert.org/consumer.html
on this page they took a sample of what is recommended to be eaten in Atkin's book and figured out the "Nutrient Analysis of Atkins Sample Diets" which shows high amounts of saturated fat and cholesterol. On the same page it tells the risks of high protein diets.